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Students Fail Nicotine Part of City Drug Tests
The Decatur Daily online edition ^
| NOVEMBER 27, 2002
| Bayne Hughes
Posted on 12/05/2002 1:05:09 PM PST by Just another Joe
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Random testing of students.
First it was the military, then private business, now the schools.
And it's testing for NICOTINE!
To: *puff_list; red-dawg; Fiddlstix; RikaStrom; robomatik; ladyinred; error99; Max McGarrity; Gabz; ...
This ticks me off for two reasons.
Number one, it singles out the students who want to participate in extracurricular activities.
Number two, it tests for NICOTINE.
To: Just another Joe
"Citizen Joe...#52436...stand in front of your monitor and participate in the calisthenics!"
'Now ONE..and TWO..and...;^)
Do not question the actions of the State.
To: Just another Joe
May the neo-conservatives long enjoy the pit that the WOD has dug for them. Do authoritarians float?
To: Just another Joe
Scary stuff. More people have died because of authoritarian governments than have died from smoking.
To: SandfleaCSC
Do authoritarians float? Let's try and see if they float with large rocks attached to them.
If they float, they're devils :)
To: DAnconia55
:) LOL
To: Just another Joe
What is scary is that in order to justify continuing the random testing some students MUST FAIL, and that's what these educrats are hoping. Talk about mixed messages.
To: Just another Joe
Are the congress and the senate, public school teachers, and all local, city and federal workers, (other then the military) subject to routine drug testing?
To: Just another Joe
It's all B.S. they should not be able to test for anything in my opinion unless they are causing problems at school and even then only with a Parents consent. I can see what's next, parental testing as well. I think not!
To: Just another Joe
Nanny State Fascism (for the good of the children, of course) has won.
To: Joe Hadenuf
Some are and some are not.
It depends on where you are an employ and what your job happens to be.
CONGRESS? You MUST be jesting. Why would the dukes and earls of the aristocracy be tested, or held accountable, for ANYTHING?
To: Joe Hadenuf
Are the congress and the senate, public school teachers, and all local, city and federal workers, (other then the military) subject to routine drug testing?Probably not. I bet the argument you'd be given is "extracurricular activities are a privilege, not a requirement". Of couse, that's BS.
Nicotene? What's next: caffeine, ibuprofin, aspirin, obesity, too much sugar? The potential to get personal information about potential medical problems is not a good thing.
As far as individual freedoms go, I'm very afraid. Nobody should have to give up their right to privacy to be on the Track Team or whatever. And redoctrination classes? It's scary.
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12/05/2002 1:38:13 PM PST
by
grania
To: Joe Hadenuf
Are the congress and the senate, public school teachers, and all local, city and federal workers, (other then the military) subject to routine drug testing? If they were, it would assure the policy never changed. It would only leave the congressional jobs open to people who support and can pass such testing. In Georgia they have made it so a person has got to be paid up in his taxes to run. In effect no tax protestor can even run for office now. All office holders will be in support of taxes from now on.
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12/05/2002 1:39:38 PM PST
by
Lysander
To: Just another Joe
This is ABSURD.
What about second hand smoke?
Last time I checked cigarettes were legal in 50 states. Most states require 21 years of age to buy, but I've never seen a teenager arrested for smoking.
SMOKING IS LEGAL. What are the tobacco police going to do next?
To: grania
extracurricular activities are a privilege, not a requirement Extracurricular activities are funded by my tax dollars, not your money or your decision. You p.c. police are out of control. If I fund it you don't have the basis for denying my children's participation.
To: George from New England
George, you misread my post. I said that this argument is BS. I'm really not politically correct on this one.
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12/05/2002 1:46:13 PM PST
by
grania
To: All
Now all you students take out your dictionaries and look up the definition of tyranny
To: grania
I bet the argument you'd be given is "extracurricular activities are a privilege, not a requirement".You're probably right but I don't think that a student wanting to participate in extracurricular activities should be held to a different standard than a student that doen't want to participate.
I'm against drug testing as a whole and random drug testing in particular. There is too much room for abuse of the process.
To: Just another Joe
First it was the military, then private business, now the schools. And it's testing for NICOTINE! Pretty soon it will be for "Hoppe's Number 9". This is what happens when you allow the evil that is the DARE program into your schools.I personally know of parents who were called in to their daughters school to "discuss a problem",and when they got there the problem turned out to be that their daughters had informed on them for smoking in their own home,and in the presence of their children. They got a short lecture about how this was abusive to their children,and that they needed to go outside to smoke. This is only ONE small step from arrest for child abuse,and this WILL happen in the future. The stage has already been set.
The only "sweet" part about this particiluar case is that the woman was a cop herself. For some strange reason she doesn't seem to be as big a fan of the DARE program as she used to be.
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