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To: SMEDLEYBUTLER
Enforce the 1961 ban and clean out the seminaries and episcopacy.

Agreed. Call me old fashioned but I think Vatican II was a mistake in many ways.

Regards, Ivan

4 posted on 11/25/2002 3:42:19 PM PST by MadIvan
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To: MadIvan
Call me old fashioned but I think Vatican II was a mistake in many ways.

I'll call you old fashioned Ivan, and love ya all the more for it, LOL! ;)

The whole Vatican II thing reminds me of a quote from Ellen Glasgow: "All change is not growth, as all movement is not forward."

11 posted on 11/25/2002 5:03:47 PM PST by kstewskis
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To: MadIvan
Call me old fashioned but I think Vatican II was a mistake in many ways.

Vatican II was not a mistake.

Some of the excesses which invoked Vatican II were mistaken, as were the invocations of Vatican II utilized to justify almost every aberration which followed the Council.

Those who look back on everything prior to the 1962 as some kind of ideal age, where Catholic women wore head covers, and Catholic men belonged to the Knights of Columbus, and everybody watched Leave it to Beaver on Saturday night, and all was right with the world and the Church, are naive.

Without Vatican II, the Western Rite of the Catholic Church would look like the Eastern Rite: shrinking, self-focused, and obsessed with internal matters instead of leading the world out of communism and inculturating liturgy with local customs in primitive third-world countries.

John Paul II is an advocate of Vatican II because he exemplifies the best of the Council: open to the world and open to his fellow man.

14 posted on 11/25/2002 5:07:36 PM PST by sinkspur
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