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Right wing's strength in talk radio, new media frustrates Democrats ("Dangerous Tone")
The Plain Dealer ^ | 11/24/02 | Mark O'Keefe

Posted on 11/24/2002 6:50:29 AM PST by Tumbleweed_Connection

In an updated critique of what Hillary Clinton once called the vast, right-wing conspiracy, Democrats are complaining bitterly about the power of a loose-knit network of conservative media voices.

Outgoing Senate Majority leader Tom Daschle blasts radio host Rush Limbaugh and "Limbaugh wannabees" for what he considers a shrill and dangerous tone. Sen. Richard Durbin of Illinois, one of a new group of senators trying to reposition the Democrats in the wake of the Nov. 5 elections, tells National Public Radio that his party is struggling to overcome "station after station" of "right-wing screamers."

The complaints, which conservatives attribute to bitterness over losing, are a reaction to a gradual shift of political and media realities.

The days when the Associated Press, three major television networks and East Coast newspapers led by The Washington Post and The New York Times dominated the flow of political news are gone. Technological advances have spawned "narrowcasting" in which political communication can be tailored to niche audiences through cable channels, local radio stations and Web sites - all seemingly dominated by conservatives.

"Conservatives understand that so many Americans want their news when they want it and the way they want it. Conservatives are better marketers. They use all the tools of mass marketing better than liberals," said Michael Parks, director of the School of Journalism at the University of Southern California's Annenberg School for Communication.

"In a sense, it may be that Democrats are still rooted in a kind of populist culture, and they haven't realized everyone is going over to niches," added Parks, a Pulitzer Prize-winning correspondent and former editor with The Los Angeles Times.

"Why do people go to niches? It's because there's so much news and information out there and the news consumer wants somebody who will give him or her a unique take on the world so they don't have to drink from the fire hose."

In a news conference Wednesday, Daschle, a South Dakota Democrat, lashed out at Limbaugh and other talk-show conservatives for fueling "an emotional movement in this country among some people who don't know the difference between entertainment and politics, and who are then so energized as to go out and hurt somebody."

Daschle did not provide specific examples of violence, except to say that when Limbaugh called him an "obstructionist" he and his family had worried.

Daschle lamented what he called a blurring of "entertainment and politics" by Limbaugh and other conservatives who use humor to make their points and said Democrats have concluded "we have to have the same edge that Republicans do."

Limbaugh, on his nationally syndicated, top-rated show, said Wednesday that the Democrats' real problem is that people no longer have to rely on the "leftist" big three TV networks and Eastern newspapers, led by The New York Times.

"Their allies aren't good enough anymore," Limbaugh said.

On the country's second-ranked radio talk show, Sen. Orrin Hatch, a Utah Republican, told conservative host Sean Hannity that talk radio gave Republicans the winning edge in the election.

"I thank my father in heaven every day for people like you, Rush Limbaugh and others," Hatch told Hannity, who also has a show on the Fox News Channel.

Ralph Neas, president of the liberal People for the American Way, a Washington-based advocacy group, has witnessed the power of conservative media as his organization works against congressional confirmation of conservative judges.

"What we see now is an incredible echo chamber," Neas said. "You get a Wall Street Journal editorial in the morning. You then hear about it that day on talk radio and talk TV. It goes up on Web sites and it's debated in Internet chat rooms across the country.

"You add up all those niches and it reaches a lot of people. I think the progressive community has to face the reality, especially about talk radio and talk TV, and perhaps put together our own TV shows."

The emerging conservative media aren't new. In 1998, in the midst of the Monica Lewinsky scandal, Hillary Clinton blamed her husband's problems on a "vast right-wing conspiracy."

One of the few journalists ever named by the Clinton White House as part of such a conspir acy is Joseph Farah, then editor of The Sacramento Union and founder of the California- based Western Journalism Center, founded to fight what it saw as liberal media bias.

Farah launched WorldNetDaily (www.worldnetdaily.com) in 1997. It now has more than 3 million visitors a month and employs a dozen full-time editorial employees at headquarters in Cave Junction, Ore., and an office in Washington. The site is a frequently used bookmark for conservative talk radio hosts, and Farah and his reporters often are radio guests.

What Farah saw as a liberal media monopoly has been broken, but in his view, not beaten.

"Look at the numbers of people watching Peter Jennings, Tom Brokaw and Dan Rather on the major network newscasts," he said. "There's still no comparison to Fox News and Web sites like ours. The battle is far from over. To start celebrating is very, very premature because this is still a David and Goliath struggle."


TOPICS: Politics/Elections
KEYWORDS: clinton; daschle; hannity; rightwingconspiracy; rush
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1 posted on 11/24/2002 6:50:30 AM PST by Tumbleweed_Connection
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To: Tumbleweed_Connection
Someone call the whaaaaaaambulance for Senator Durbin!! LOL!
2 posted on 11/24/2002 6:52:23 AM PST by Guillermo
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To: Tumbleweed_Connection
My heart bleeds for the lost dominance of the lamestream media.

I have never had a high opinion of Durban and now it's sunk even lower. HRP

3 posted on 11/24/2002 6:54:21 AM PST by sauropod
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To: Tumbleweed_Connection
. I think the progressive community has to face the reality, especially about talk radio and talk TV, and perhaps put together our own TV shows."

What a laugh! As if liberals haven't dominated the airwaves, and print media for decades.

Thank God for choice! The right to chose an alternative.

Thanks to....
Rush Limbaugh
Free Republic
Sean Hannity
Fox News Channel
Local Talk Radio (KMJ Fresno,CA)
The Internet (thanks Al Gore..lol)

4 posted on 11/24/2002 7:00:22 AM PST by Clovis_Skeptic
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To: Clovis_Skeptic
Ditto!! The dumbocraps underestimated the power of the "radio", having dominated the TV networks for ages. But I for one didn't spend one hour watching the nightly news in the years before Fox became available in my area (RI). Now I have it on 24/7. What the dumbocraps didn't realize is that almost everyone can have a radio at their work station, their car, a headset, etc. We have been listening to talk radio for years 24/7, not just the dumb hour watching brokaw, jennings, rather, donaldson, woodruf, blitzer. I just keep switching from station to station during the day, picking and chosing my favorite host. And now, at home while working on the computer at night, I listen to talk radio on the net, whether live or reruns from the day. Can't get any better than that.
lilrhody
5 posted on 11/24/2002 7:30:08 AM PST by LilRhody
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To: Tumbleweed_Connection
"You add up all those niches and it reaches a lot of people. I think the progressive community has to face the reality, especially about talk radio and talk TV, and perhaps put together our own TV shows."

yeah like Donahue. They have shows-just that the ratings suck
6 posted on 11/24/2002 7:31:55 AM PST by arielb
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To: Tumbleweed_Connection
Sean Hannity is on FOX now. He's a dark haired cutie. Easy on the eyes.
7 posted on 11/24/2002 7:32:06 AM PST by MotleyGirl70
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To: MotleyGirl70
I didn't know Sean had threats on his life. Scary.

Juan Williams gets on my nerves.

8 posted on 11/24/2002 7:37:00 AM PST by MotleyGirl70
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To: Tumbleweed_Connection
The old media, inc. CNN, is hindered by unfair rules and regulations. Jennings wasn't able to say anything about the Torricelli double shuffle in NJ. The old media can't talk about black on white crimes, fairy on normal crimes, most dem theft and dishonesty especially if it is a black dem, union corruption, or the use of a weapon to save a life. At the same time, they are required to praise everything a Clinotn, Kennedy, Jesse Jackson, Corrie King family member says or does, cover extensively the scream of every environmental/feminist/minority/fairy group responding to an action of a Republican governmental agency, AND carry/praise the stupid opinions of great thinkers like Barbra Streisand, Harry Belafonte, Susan Sarandon, and misc. rock personages.

Once the left wing extremist media is freed of these competitive burdens, they will be able to compete with the free and uncensored folks who are not part of the old left wing, neo-communist conspiracy.

9 posted on 11/24/2002 7:37:05 AM PST by Tacis
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To: Tumbleweed_Connection
So we're an "echo chamber" now, huh?

They never miss an opportunity to get in a cheap shot. Still, it may be an improvement over "just entertainment."

10 posted on 11/24/2002 7:37:50 AM PST by backhoe
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To: Tumbleweed_Connection
"Why do people go to niches? It's because there's so much news and information out there and the news consumer wants somebody who will give him or her a unique take on the world so they don't have to drink from the fire hose."

This writer doesn't quite get it.

People go to the "niches" because they are tired of the mainstream media's Liberal slant on the news.

11 posted on 11/24/2002 7:39:13 AM PST by TruthWillWin
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To: Tumbleweed_Connection
I have no television. Mainstream media is dominated by the left. I don't want to hear it. I get my news on the internet, I get my music on the internet. I am not interested in what Jennings, CNN, Brokaw have to say. Nor am I interested in what Greta on Fox has to say.
12 posted on 11/24/2002 7:48:31 AM PST by I_Love_My_Husband
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To: backhoe
The reason liberals demonize talk radio is they know as well as we do their hollow agendas cannot bear the scrutiny of honest, open debate. They limit their media exposure to forums which allow only one way communication, and this strategy worked well untill talk radio and the internet came along.
13 posted on 11/24/2002 7:48:55 AM PST by Vigilantcitizen
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To: Tumbleweed_Connection
How can liberals complain? They virtually own most of television, it's ideal for non-working people who have to have something to fill up their days. They can get their own radio shows if they feel like it ----they can hire Bill Clinton or Al Gore to host a talk show if they want. If they can't find and audience then whose fault is it?
14 posted on 11/24/2002 7:53:50 AM PST by FITZ
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To: viligantcitizen
I wrote this last Spring:


Yesterday was a fascinating study in the power and potential of the "new media"- an alliance of the web and talk radio...

I read most of the stories here on Free Republic and logged off to take my wife to work. As we were driving in, the callers to talk radio started coming up, and relaying information, stories, and refutations to "The President Knew!" that had to have come off the web.

By lunchtime, the flow had picked up drastically, and callers were showing more & more indignation- at the clinton's corrupt reign, at the media, and at the spin being peddled.

By late afternoon, the flow became a torrent of righteous anger and indignation.

It was a wonderful thing to behold, and you have to wonder that had it existed 10 years ago, a lot of really bad stuff would have died a-borning...


What's apparent- and really worrisome- about this newest dustup is the Left's contempt for, and wish to silence, any opposing opinions.

15 posted on 11/24/2002 7:54:26 AM PST by backhoe
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To: Tumbleweed_Connection
The Clinton Party mascot should be changed from a donkey to a crying baby.
16 posted on 11/24/2002 7:54:51 AM PST by Paul Atreides
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To: Tumbleweed_Connection
"In a sense, it may be that Democrats are still rooted in a kind of populist culture, and they haven't realized everyone is going over to niches."

"niches?" I guess "truth" to Rats is a niche, something they'll never grasp or be able to speak, in any media. Consequently, their ability to "grasp" the American public will continue to dwindle.

17 posted on 11/24/2002 7:57:43 AM PST by nicmarlo
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To: LilRhody
Dasshole and company's attacks on talk radio were the first salvo in a campaign that is just beginning to eliminate conservative outlets and voices. If the RATs ever return to power they will do two things: reinstall the "fairness" doctrine to drive conservative ideas off of radio and "fix" the Interent in the name of national security. Don't think it's possible? The Internet could be rendered useless by changing the way DNS (Domain Name Service) works in the name of national security.
18 posted on 11/24/2002 7:58:03 AM PST by ZeitgeistSurfer
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To: Tumbleweed_Connection
Conservative talk radio has even penetrated into liberal strongholds. Here in Massachusetts, Republican Mitt Romney solidly defeated Socialist Shannon O'Brien due in large part to local talk show hosts such as Howie Carr and Jay Severin pounding away at O'Brien every day for weeks.

Consider that only 13% of the electorate here are registered Republicans and yet the Republican won with almost 55% of the vote. That is a staggering achievement, especially when considering how entrenched the Socialists are here. Shannon O'Brien had the backing of the entire Socialist machine including the unions and the teachers, etc. Without talk radio, I am convinced that Shannon O'Brien would have won in a landslide.

Now if only the local talk show hosts could concentrate on the state legislatures. But they never talk about politics at the state level beyond governor very much - even Howie Carr, who built his career on exposing the corruption in local Bay State politics.

BTW, for those who are confused with my exchanging of the word Socialist for Democrat, I made a vow several weeks ago that so long as avowed Socialist Nancy Pelosi is the elected leader of the Democrat party nationally, that anybody claiming to be a Democrat is in fact a Socialist and against America.

19 posted on 11/24/2002 8:03:08 AM PST by SamAdams76
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To: Tacis; Peacerose
Interesting comment Tacis, worthy of being repeated I think.
20 posted on 11/24/2002 8:11:32 AM PST by bert
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