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The Face of Spam. Meet the Spam Queen Laura Betterly of Data Resource Consulting
WSJ ^
| Nov 13, 2002
| MYLENE MANGALINDAN
Posted on 11/22/2002 1:34:52 PM PST by BJungNan
Edited on 04/22/2004 11:47:33 PM PDT by Jim Robinson.
[history]
"It's that simple," Ms. Betterly said triumphantly, swiping her palms. She had just dispatched e-mail messages to 500,000 strangers.
If you call her she will tell you she only sends email to people who have opted in. But if this from a Wall Street Journal article about her operation is true, then she is responsible for many unsolicited emails from other spammers whose emails to you were generated from lists she has sold.
(Excerpt) Read more at online.wsj.com ...
TOPICS: Business/Economy; Front Page News; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: junkemail; spam
1
posted on
11/22/2002 1:34:52 PM PST
by
BJungNan
To: BJungNan
She looks exactly like what I imagined the Spam Queen would look like.
2
posted on
11/22/2002 1:39:47 PM PST
by
dead
To: dead
She looks like a Wellstone mourner.
3
posted on
11/22/2002 1:41:11 PM PST
by
Naspino
To: BJungNan
"What we do for a living is not a bad thing. We're not horrible," she says. We only use your hard drive space and suck up your bandwidth without your permission. We also require your ISP to use extra hardware to make way for all of the spam. We advertise by converting your property. We're thieves, basically, but we're not horrible. /sarcasm
What a loony. She must be a democrat most likely.
4
posted on
11/22/2002 1:41:16 PM PST
by
JoeMomma
To: BJungNan
The Spam Madam.
5
posted on
11/22/2002 1:41:59 PM PST
by
My2Cents
To: dead
She looks exactly like what I imagined the Spam Queen would look like. In my opinion, as ugly as the thousands of unsolicited emails she had crammed into my mailbox.
6
posted on
11/22/2002 1:42:04 PM PST
by
BJungNan
To: BJungNan; Naspino
Seriously, she resembles Norman Fell in drag.
7
posted on
11/22/2002 1:43:47 PM PST
by
dead
To: BJungNan
What I want to know is ,
WHATS HER EMAIL ADDRESS?????
8
posted on
11/22/2002 1:45:36 PM PST
by
Kozak
To: Kozak
LOL!
9
posted on
11/22/2002 1:47:01 PM PST
by
paulklenk
To: BJungNan
Why on earth does that individual want to make my genitalia larger?
To: BJungNan; Hap; Bacon Man
She's not made of Spam! New Spam is pink. It only goes gray after you leave it out a couple days.
For a full discussion of the aforementioned, and other related chemical reactions, put down the soda and
click here.
11
posted on
11/22/2002 1:49:07 PM PST
by
Xenalyte
To: Billthedrill
12
posted on
11/22/2002 1:49:43 PM PST
by
dead
To: Xenalyte
She looks as thought she got hit by the Spam truck.
13
posted on
11/22/2002 2:01:30 PM PST
by
sinclair
To: BJungNan
>>While some unscrupulous spammers ignore people who ask to be removed from a list, Ms. Betterly says she complies if anyone e-mails back an "unsubscribe" command, sends "opt out" instructions or otherwise asks not to receive future messages.<<
No kidding. If you click on the "remove me" link, MOST spammers will be overjoyed, as they just discovered a "live" email address and will sell your email address for a higher price. I have been advised by my ISP not to click on the "unsubscribe" link for this very purpose, and it has resulted in less and less spam.
Hmm. . .I also handle tele-marketers in a rather unique way: When one calls and immediately asks, "Is this Mr. XXX?" I come back with, "May I ask who's calling?" and I do not identify myself. (Proper phone manners require the caller to identify themselves first, as in "This is So-and-So, May I speak with So-and-So?")
The tele-marketer then goes into their "This is business XXX, and we. . ."
At this point I interrupt and say, "I'm sorry, I am an estate attorney taking calls for Mr. XXX, he died a few weeks ago. Do you have a claim against the estate?"
At this time the tele-marketer pauses and replies, no, they do not have a claim against the estate. I then say, "Thank you, please remove his name form your list."
This ensures my name is actually removed from the list and not re-sold.
Telemarketing calls have fallen off dramatically within a few months after I started doing this. Before then I would ask to be removed and always suspected they did no such thing. Now I am reasonably certain I am removed.
(I've only had ONE telemarketer switch gears upon hearing the news of my "death," and that telemarketer then tried to sell me--the estate attorney--the product. Crass.)
To: Xenalyte
Check out this site for more on the Spam queen. Apparantly she is not well liked!
Odds&Ends
or this one (WARNING, not for the timid)
AngryWhiteGirl.com
You have to scroll down just a bit on the page.
15
posted on
11/22/2002 2:06:01 PM PST
by
BJungNan
To: BJungNan
We should have to 'opt in' to get this stuff..
not 'opt out'.
16
posted on
11/22/2002 2:08:14 PM PST
by
Route66
To: Kozak
What I want to know is,WHAT'S HER EMAIL ADDRESS?????
I want to FReep her big time!
Comment #18 Removed by Moderator
To: BJungNan
To hell with her phone number. I want her e-mail address!
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posted on
11/22/2002 2:15:14 PM PST
by
PsyOp
To: PsyOp
I 'spose we could call her and ask her for it/them...
To: null and void
I 'spose we could call her and ask her for it/them...Now there is an idea!
21
posted on
11/22/2002 2:26:12 PM PST
by
BJungNan
To: BJungNan
There should be an "OPT-IN/OPT-OUT" flag on an email inbox, that way if she puts a single spam in there while clearly marked OPT-OUT, the Spam Queen loses and gets fined. Actually my new ISP does a pretty good job of keeping out spam. I used to get 50-70 useless porn and scam messages a day at my old email address, it became unusable.
22
posted on
11/22/2002 2:37:36 PM PST
by
Sender
To: BJungNan
I agree I would like to have her e mail address and forward every useless junk that they have send to me back at her X10 every day for about six straight months!
23
posted on
11/22/2002 2:45:49 PM PST
by
arly
To: BJungNan
AIEEEEEE! I'm blind!
To: BJungNan
The Face of Spam
25
posted on
11/22/2002 3:20:44 PM PST
by
My2Cents
To: BJungNan
Well, I hate spam. But this woman built a company on her own, with virtually no capital, in her home, with kids, and became a major player.
She could have been a welfare leech. Wonder how many jobs she created, too.
26
posted on
11/22/2002 3:46:13 PM PST
by
galt-jw
To: dead
I personally know of someone who got so pissed off at a lawyer in the United States (Florida) that he told the lawyer to expect a visitation from a couple of Colombians who dont speak English. Problem solved...money returned with interest. This woman is also a parasite.
To: galt-jw
She could have been a welfare leech. Wonder how many jobs she created, too.Now there is BS if ever I saw it. She could have been an ambulance chasing lawyer and you would be praising her by that logic.
Scum is scum is scum. This women is scum. She pesters us all with email account clogging junk mail. Fills our email boxes so we can't go out of town for two days without coming back to hundreds of junk emails. Then having to spend 20 minutes carefully sorting through it so we don't miss the email we want from a customer or other important business.
In the pecking order of low life scum it goes...
- Used Car Salesman
- Lawyers
- Spammers like this women.
28
posted on
11/22/2002 4:24:40 PM PST
by
BJungNan
To: Billthedrill
Why on earth does that individual want to make my genitalia larger? Do you get those, too? Do you suppose this a fad or something?
To: PsyOp
30
posted on
11/22/2002 6:38:06 PM PST
by
Credo
To: galt-jw
She could have been a welfare leech. Wonder how many jobs she created, too.She IS a leech. Instead of leeching off welfare she leeches off the bandwidth and server space of everyone she sends spam to.
Spam like this has resulted in my customers getting about 50MB of spam, every month. I pay for the bandwidth and the server space to hold and process this stuff.
31
posted on
11/22/2002 6:50:29 PM PST
by
ikka
To: Credo
Thanks! From now on, whenever I'm asked for an e-mail address I'm giving them hers!
32
posted on
11/22/2002 7:00:41 PM PST
by
PsyOp
Comment #33 Removed by Moderator
To: BJungNan
Betterly
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Ann Lewis
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34
posted on
11/22/2002 7:08:22 PM PST
by
Consort
To: BJungNan
35
posted on
11/22/2002 7:13:23 PM PST
by
cebadams
To: BJungNan
"I'm just trying to make a living like everyone else," says Ms. Betterly. Her e-mail marketing operation, she says, allows her to raise her children, Chris, 10, and Craig, 11, and to spend quality time with them."
Maybe she can spend some of that money to get them quality plastic surgery if they look anything like her. Michael Jackson's surgeon could make a definite improvement.
36
posted on
11/22/2002 7:13:34 PM PST
by
aruanan
To: dark_lord
This women must be very high on herself and her money to do this interview. To me she is like Saddam Husein in front of the TV camera with no idea how ugly her deeds make her look to everyone.

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posted on
11/22/2002 9:31:23 PM PST
by
MissBaby
To: Billthedrill
Judging by your name the spam is definatley misplaced going to your mailbox. I once a long, long time ago met a guy named BilltheWaringBlender buy may have only been dreaming.
Hey, have a look this I found on a google search.
http://www.eboards4all.com/07778/index.html
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posted on
11/22/2002 10:09:00 PM PST
by
MissBaby
To: Billthedrill
BilltheWaringBlender buy may have only been dreaming. oopps. "Buy" = "butt" errr, I mean but.
See how flustered you have me.
39
posted on
11/22/2002 10:11:35 PM PST
by
MissBaby
To: Gunrunner2
that telemarketer then tried to sell me--the estate attorney--the product. Crass. He may be crass, but he's a good salesman.
40
posted on
11/23/2002 6:02:14 AM PST
by
PaulJ
To: BJungNan
What a spamclymer
To: Gunrunner2
we recently got call intercept on our line and the telemarketing calls have all vanished!
To: MissBaby
Is that Saddam or one of the Escobar brothers?
43
posted on
11/23/2002 7:02:32 AM PST
by
aruanan
To: galt-jw
She could have been a welfare leech. She is a welfare leech.
44
posted on
11/25/2002 2:33:02 PM PST
by
steve-b
To: null and void
Well well well, according to a letter in the WSJ this morning the Spam Queens email is:
laura@dataresourceconsulting.com
I wouldn't use my main email account to send her anything though. Spam spam spam spam, wonderful spam...........
45
posted on
11/26/2002 5:11:47 AM PST
by
Kozak
To: Kozak
I'm going to auto forward every piece of sleaze and great offer I get.
46
posted on
11/26/2002 5:15:36 AM PST
by
Kozak
To: carlo3b
ping
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