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The Face of Spam. Meet the Spam Queen Laura Betterly of Data Resource Consulting
WSJ ^ | Nov 13, 2002 | MYLENE MANGALINDAN

Posted on 11/22/2002 1:34:52 PM PST by BJungNan

Edited on 04/22/2004 11:47:33 PM PDT by Jim Robinson. [history]

"It's that simple," Ms. Betterly said triumphantly, swiping her palms. She had just dispatched e-mail messages to 500,000 strangers.

If you call her she will tell you she only sends email to people who have opted in. But if this from a Wall Street Journal article about her operation is true, then she is responsible for many unsolicited emails from other spammers whose emails to you were generated from lists she has sold.


(Excerpt) Read more at online.wsj.com ...


TOPICS: Business/Economy; Front Page News; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: junkemail; spam

1 posted on 11/22/2002 1:34:52 PM PST by BJungNan
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To: BJungNan
She looks exactly like what I imagined the Spam Queen would look like.
2 posted on 11/22/2002 1:39:47 PM PST by dead
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To: dead
She looks like a Wellstone mourner.
3 posted on 11/22/2002 1:41:11 PM PST by Naspino
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To: BJungNan
"What we do for a living is not a bad thing. We're not horrible," she says.

We only use your hard drive space and suck up your bandwidth without your permission. We also require your ISP to use extra hardware to make way for all of the spam. We advertise by converting your property. We're thieves, basically, but we're not horrible. /sarcasm

What a loony. She must be a democrat most likely.

4 posted on 11/22/2002 1:41:16 PM PST by JoeMomma
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To: BJungNan
The Spam Madam.
5 posted on 11/22/2002 1:41:59 PM PST by My2Cents
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To: dead
She looks exactly like what I imagined the Spam Queen would look like.

In my opinion, as ugly as the thousands of unsolicited emails she had crammed into my mailbox.

6 posted on 11/22/2002 1:42:04 PM PST by BJungNan
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To: BJungNan; Naspino
Seriously, she resembles Norman Fell in drag.
7 posted on 11/22/2002 1:43:47 PM PST by dead
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To: BJungNan
What I want to know is ,

WHATS HER EMAIL ADDRESS?????
8 posted on 11/22/2002 1:45:36 PM PST by Kozak
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To: Kozak
LOL!
9 posted on 11/22/2002 1:47:01 PM PST by paulklenk
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To: BJungNan
Why on earth does that individual want to make my genitalia larger?
10 posted on 11/22/2002 1:47:47 PM PST by Billthedrill
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To: BJungNan; Hap; Bacon Man
She's not made of Spam! New Spam is pink. It only goes gray after you leave it out a couple days.

For a full discussion of the aforementioned, and other related chemical reactions, put down the soda and click here.
11 posted on 11/22/2002 1:49:07 PM PST by Xenalyte
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To: Billthedrill

12 posted on 11/22/2002 1:49:43 PM PST by dead
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To: Xenalyte
She looks as thought she got hit by the Spam truck.
13 posted on 11/22/2002 2:01:30 PM PST by sinclair
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To: BJungNan
>>While some unscrupulous spammers ignore people who ask to be removed from a list, Ms. Betterly says she complies if anyone e-mails back an "unsubscribe" command, sends "opt out" instructions or otherwise asks not to receive future messages.<<


No kidding. If you click on the "remove me" link, MOST spammers will be overjoyed, as they just discovered a "live" email address and will sell your email address for a higher price. I have been advised by my ISP not to click on the "unsubscribe" link for this very purpose, and it has resulted in less and less spam.

Hmm. . .I also handle tele-marketers in a rather unique way: When one calls and immediately asks, "Is this Mr. XXX?" I come back with, "May I ask who's calling?" and I do not identify myself. (Proper phone manners require the caller to identify themselves first, as in "This is So-and-So, May I speak with So-and-So?")

The tele-marketer then goes into their "This is business XXX, and we. . ."

At this point I interrupt and say, "I'm sorry, I am an estate attorney taking calls for Mr. XXX, he died a few weeks ago. Do you have a claim against the estate?"

At this time the tele-marketer pauses and replies, no, they do not have a claim against the estate. I then say, "Thank you, please remove his name form your list."

This ensures my name is actually removed from the list and not re-sold.

Telemarketing calls have fallen off dramatically within a few months after I started doing this. Before then I would ask to be removed and always suspected they did no such thing. Now I am reasonably certain I am removed.

(I've only had ONE telemarketer switch gears upon hearing the news of my "death," and that telemarketer then tried to sell me--the estate attorney--the product. Crass.)
14 posted on 11/22/2002 2:01:58 PM PST by Gunrunner2
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To: Xenalyte
Check out this site for more on the Spam queen. Apparantly she is not well liked!

Odds&Ends

or this one (WARNING, not for the timid)

AngryWhiteGirl.com
You have to scroll down just a bit on the page.

15 posted on 11/22/2002 2:06:01 PM PST by BJungNan
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To: BJungNan
We should have to 'opt in' to get this stuff..
not 'opt out'.
16 posted on 11/22/2002 2:08:14 PM PST by Route66
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To: Kozak
What I want to know is,

WHAT'S HER EMAIL ADDRESS?????

I want to FReep her big time!

17 posted on 11/22/2002 2:09:04 PM PST by null and void
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To: BJungNan
To hell with her phone number. I want her e-mail address!
19 posted on 11/22/2002 2:15:14 PM PST by PsyOp
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To: PsyOp
I 'spose we could call her and ask her for it/them...
20 posted on 11/22/2002 2:20:30 PM PST by null and void
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To: null and void
I 'spose we could call her and ask her for it/them...

Now there is an idea!

21 posted on 11/22/2002 2:26:12 PM PST by BJungNan
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To: BJungNan
There should be an "OPT-IN/OPT-OUT" flag on an email inbox, that way if she puts a single spam in there while clearly marked OPT-OUT, the Spam Queen loses and gets fined. Actually my new ISP does a pretty good job of keeping out spam. I used to get 50-70 useless porn and scam messages a day at my old email address, it became unusable.
22 posted on 11/22/2002 2:37:36 PM PST by Sender
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To: BJungNan
I agree I would like to have her e mail address and forward every useless junk that they have send to me back at her X10 every day for about six straight months!
23 posted on 11/22/2002 2:45:49 PM PST by arly
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To: BJungNan
AIEEEEEE! I'm blind!
24 posted on 11/22/2002 3:13:05 PM PST by polemikos
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To: BJungNan
The Face of Spam


25 posted on 11/22/2002 3:20:44 PM PST by My2Cents
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To: BJungNan
Well, I hate spam. But this woman built a company on her own, with virtually no capital, in her home, with kids, and became a major player.

She could have been a welfare leech. Wonder how many jobs she created, too.
26 posted on 11/22/2002 3:46:13 PM PST by galt-jw
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To: dead
I personally know of someone who got so pissed off at a lawyer in the United States (Florida) that he told the lawyer to expect a visitation from a couple of Colombians who don’t speak English. Problem solved...money returned with interest. This woman is also a parasite.

27 posted on 11/22/2002 3:58:36 PM PST by Gatún(CraigIsaMangoTreeLawyer)
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To: galt-jw
She could have been a welfare leech. Wonder how many jobs she created, too.

Now there is BS if ever I saw it. She could have been an ambulance chasing lawyer and you would be praising her by that logic.

Scum is scum is scum. This women is scum. She pesters us all with email account clogging junk mail. Fills our email boxes so we can't go out of town for two days without coming back to hundreds of junk emails. Then having to spend 20 minutes carefully sorting through it so we don't miss the email we want from a customer or other important business.

In the pecking order of low life scum it goes...
- Used Car Salesman
- Lawyers
- Spammers like this women.

28 posted on 11/22/2002 4:24:40 PM PST by BJungNan
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To: Billthedrill
Why on earth does that individual want to make my genitalia larger?

Do you get those, too? Do you suppose this a fad or something?

29 posted on 11/22/2002 5:04:47 PM PST by Old Professer
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To: PsyOp
To hell with her phone number. I want her e-mail address!

Try these three.


Online Marketing: online@dataresourceconsulting.com

Off-Line Marketing: offline@dataresourceconsulting.com

Main E-mail: info@dataresourceconsulting.com



30 posted on 11/22/2002 6:38:06 PM PST by Credo
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To: galt-jw
She could have been a welfare leech. Wonder how many jobs she created, too.

She IS a leech. Instead of leeching off welfare she leeches off the bandwidth and server space of everyone she sends spam to.

Spam like this has resulted in my customers getting about 50MB of spam, every month. I pay for the bandwidth and the server space to hold and process this stuff.

31 posted on 11/22/2002 6:50:29 PM PST by ikka
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To: Credo
Thanks! From now on, whenever I'm asked for an e-mail address I'm giving them hers!
32 posted on 11/22/2002 7:00:41 PM PST by PsyOp
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To: BJungNan
Betterly
Ann Lewis

34 posted on 11/22/2002 7:08:22 PM PST by Consort
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To: BJungNan
November must be spam month in the news business. Here's my post from earlier today on the Spam KING:

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/news/793992/posts
35 posted on 11/22/2002 7:13:23 PM PST by cebadams
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To: BJungNan
"I'm just trying to make a living like everyone else," says Ms. Betterly. Her e-mail marketing operation, she says, allows her to raise her children, Chris, 10, and Craig, 11, and to spend quality time with them."

Maybe she can spend some of that money to get them quality plastic surgery if they look anything like her. Michael Jackson's surgeon could make a definite improvement.
36 posted on 11/22/2002 7:13:34 PM PST by aruanan
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To: dark_lord
This women must be very high on herself and her money to do this interview. To me she is like Saddam Husein in front of the TV camera with no idea how ugly her deeds make her look to everyone.


37 posted on 11/22/2002 9:31:23 PM PST by MissBaby
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To: Billthedrill
Judging by your name the spam is definatley misplaced going to your mailbox. I once a long, long time ago met a guy named BilltheWaringBlender buy may have only been dreaming.

Hey, have a look this I found on a google search.

http://www.eboards4all.com/07778/index.html
38 posted on 11/22/2002 10:09:00 PM PST by MissBaby
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To: Billthedrill
BilltheWaringBlender buy may have only been dreaming.

oopps. "Buy" = "butt" errr, I mean but.

See how flustered you have me.

39 posted on 11/22/2002 10:11:35 PM PST by MissBaby
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To: Gunrunner2
that telemarketer then tried to sell me--the estate attorney--the product. Crass.

He may be crass, but he's a good salesman.

40 posted on 11/23/2002 6:02:14 AM PST by PaulJ
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To: BJungNan
What a spamclymer
41 posted on 11/23/2002 6:04:19 AM PST by ~Kim4VRWC's~
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To: Gunrunner2
we recently got call intercept on our line and the telemarketing calls have all vanished!
42 posted on 11/23/2002 6:07:05 AM PST by MatthewViti
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To: MissBaby
Is that Saddam or one of the Escobar brothers?
43 posted on 11/23/2002 7:02:32 AM PST by aruanan
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To: galt-jw
She could have been a welfare leech.

She is a welfare leech.

44 posted on 11/25/2002 2:33:02 PM PST by steve-b
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To: null and void
Well well well, according to a letter in the WSJ this morning the Spam Queens email is:

laura@dataresourceconsulting.com

I wouldn't use my main email account to send her anything though. Spam spam spam spam, wonderful spam...........
45 posted on 11/26/2002 5:11:47 AM PST by Kozak
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To: Kozak
I'm going to auto forward every piece of sleaze and great offer I get.
46 posted on 11/26/2002 5:15:36 AM PST by Kozak
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To: carlo3b
ping
47 posted on 12/08/2002 2:06:01 PM PST by Nick Danger
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