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EXTREME CRISIS -- MIDNIGHT LAND GRAB IN THE HOUSE -- CARA
American Land Rights Association - Land Rights Network ^ | 11/15/02 | American Land Rights Association

Posted on 11/16/2002 9:07:15 AM PST by Justanumba

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To: farmfriend
What he is saying is that he proposes providing funding to the state entities that take land away from owners in the name of wildlife. Does this not seem rather insidious? This bill increases the power of the local land takers. It does not enhance or solidify owners' rights.
61 posted on 11/17/2002 9:33:42 AM PST by raybbr
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To: madfly
Please remove my name from your "ping" list!
62 posted on 11/17/2002 11:00:57 AM PST by Chapita
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To: Chapita
WEll I went to remove your name and FR went down. I'm back and your name is gone now.

freeRegards
madfly
63 posted on 11/17/2002 1:44:11 PM PST by madfly
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To: farmfriend
bttt
64 posted on 11/17/2002 1:49:21 PM PST by madfly
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To: madfly
Thanks!
65 posted on 11/17/2002 4:12:28 PM PST by Chapita
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To: Justanumba
Writing them is the same as the colonists sending England petitions of grievance.

IT WILL DO NO GOOD.

They are blatantly stealing American's land and Freedoms. And You have as much chance of talking a thief out of taking your wallet as You do asking these bastards to respect the Rights You mistakingly believe You have.

I think Patrick Henry said it best :

" Gentlemen may cry , Peace , Peace - but there is no peace.

The war is actually begun !

The next gale that sweeps from the north will bring to our ears the clash of resounding arms !

Our brethren are already in the fields !

Why stand we here idle ?

What is it that gentlemen wish ?

What would they have ?

Is life so dear , or peace so sweet , as to be purchased at the price of chains and slavery ?

Forbid it , Almighty God !

I KNOW WHAT OTHERS MAY TAKE , BUT AS FOR ME , GIVE ME LIBERTY OR GIVE ME DEATH !!!

Well look around " American's " it appears that FREEDOM has become too inconveinent for "American's " to fight for.

They would rather whine about it to the ones that would ( will ) enslave them , and run off to murder innocent people for their jailers PROFIT.

I guess as long as we're killing someone , it makes us feel like "American's " , even if it's the wrong people.

You are accepting your childrens slavery , because You are afraid to face the enemy...............

66 posted on 11/17/2002 5:13:20 PM PST by Eustace
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To: DoughtyOne
You know, it's hard to admit it now, but I used to kind of like Bob Smith. He sure let me down.
67 posted on 11/17/2002 7:27:31 PM PST by Justanumba
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To: Justanumba
S 990 contains a one time appropriation for New Hampshire that would be used for the Connecticut River Headwaters Project which is an asseblage of Federal, State, Local, Private, and enviromental money to buy those lands that International Paper is selling.

Title 1 of S990 is $350 mil per year that goes into the Pittman-Robertson Act fund(1930s) and the Dingell-Johnson Act fund(1950s) which go to the states.

Title 2 is $150 mil per year in grants to private landowners. Yes, enviro groups, tribes, and hunting groups will benefit from this; but so will many, many small landowners. See Bush's Landowner Incentive Program that was put in place while governer of Texas and taken nationally after elected Prez.

Title 3 is $50 mil per year for projects among states. Examples would be OK and AR for the Ouachita Mtns or TX and NM for the Pecos River.

Title 4 is $50 mil per year for those states with lands between the 100th and 105th meridians, aka the Great American Desert.

Once again let me say, this bill is not about buying land. That would be the Land and Water Conservation Fund(1960s) which would have been rolled into CARA as Title 2. Meanwhile, LWCA and all the other pre-existing funding acts that were to be rolled into CARA are being appropriated at 100%

68 posted on 11/18/2002 5:37:11 AM PST by Ben Ficklin
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To: Ben Ficklin
Bump
69 posted on 11/18/2002 6:39:21 AM PST by madfly
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To: All
bump if you're outraged!
70 posted on 11/18/2002 6:40:00 AM PST by madfly
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To: Justanumba
To Pennsylvanians: I just called both Santorum and Specter's offices and spoke to staffers. When I mentioned S. 990, Santorum's staffie asked me what that was. Then he told me that the senator hadn't made any decision about it yet. I could hear him typing notes as we were speaking. I told him we used to laugh at the Soviet Union because they insisted all property was owned by the government, and now in America we are encouraging transfer of private property to the government. I told him the government has too much land now.

The girl I spoke with at Specters office didn't seem to have a clue. She told me he hadn't made his mind up yet, but I don't believe her. I asked her to request that he put a hold on the bill. We should probably call Lott also.

I called the 800-648-3615 number to the Capitol. I'm going to send faxes shortly.

71 posted on 11/18/2002 10:16:17 AM PST by StopGlobalWhining
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To: Guy Angelito
Can't be done without just compensation. What is the big deal?

Q---What's just compensation for condemned property? What's just compensation for property publicly targeted for preservation status?

A---quite a bit less than fair market value.

EBUCK

72 posted on 11/18/2002 10:26:47 AM PST by EBUCK
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To: farmfriend
Do you have anything else regarding the bill? Other supporters of it perhaps?

EBUCK
73 posted on 11/18/2002 10:35:23 AM PST by EBUCK
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To: BrowningBAR
I'm with You. But farmers have lost in Klamath Falls , Oregon.

And farmers are losing in Florida.

Others have lost in Colorado.

And still others in "buffer zones" and along rivers that the federal government has claimed through " Heritage Site " programs.

I've been trying to get American's to use the "levers" for change.

But most " American's " still believe there is a two " Party " system , when it's really a single minded world government institution.

The first depression in 1929 after the privately owned central bank known as the federal reserve took over our economy , claimed 30% of the farmland in the Mississippi Valley.

Taking over the farm land along with ending property rights is all part of the ten planks of communism.

You can color it any way You want but when everything belongs to the State ( elites ) it's bad for a ( used to be ) Free people.

Our Freedoms are illusions , but " American's " accept less and less , claiming it's better than other nations around the world.

With all the lever pulling that's happened over the last 60 years we've been moving closer and closer to world government.

For now we have a " Republican " government , and it wouldn't matter if it was " Democratic " the same policies would be followed.

Check out a book named " Hope of the Wicked " by Ted Flynn. It's packed.

I've read a lot more and could go on and on , this one book would do a lot for Your optimism.

Believe me , I don't want You to lose your fire , "We" need it.

Our politicians see us as fools and have no respect for us or our lives.

This definitely needs to change ...................

76 posted on 11/18/2002 3:22:02 PM PST by Eustace
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To: EBUCK
Bill Summary & Status
78 posted on 11/18/2002 6:35:44 PM PST by farmfriend
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To: BrowningBAR
Please don't take me wrong , it is in their memory and respect for them that I am willing to sacrifice it all. Just as they were willing to do for us.

I see different enemies.

Not ones across the oceans , I don't know , but the OVERrated carsalesmen that "We" call politicians.

Ask Yourself WHY , do American's have to give up their LIBERTY'S when the rest of the WORLD would LOVE to have them ?

There are more than enough laws to deal with the " situation " but that doesn't enslave us enough.......

So " American's " HAVE TO MAKE SACRIFICES , not the "Terrorists" .

If "They" are our enemy , let's make them pay , but NOT "Us".

That's how easy their LIE is to see through.

American's DON'T need THIER Churches spied on.

"We" don't NEED our telephones tapped.

But " They " want to " condition " YOU to believe that , that is necessary in order to KEEP the FREEDOMS , that THEY want to steal from YOU.

WE DO HAVE ENEMIES , WE JUST HAVE TO BE BRAVE ENOUGH TO FACE THEM.

FOREIGN OR DOMESTIC.

79 posted on 11/18/2002 7:22:03 PM PST by Eustace
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To: farmfriend
Thank you for the link. I does look like a bonus for small land owners and farmers. Especially those with grazing animals.

I'll have to read it thru a few more times before I make up my mind but I think you are in the right here.

EBUCK
80 posted on 11/19/2002 9:01:17 AM PST by EBUCK
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