Posted on 10/15/2002 8:21:34 PM PDT by Quix
Received: 10/13/02 5:57:29 PM
From: Gladrags2@webtv.net (Anita Bush)
To: end-times_news@associate.com
Subject: British MP Reveals Plan to Break up Saudia Arabia, Sudan
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British MP Reveals Anglo-American Plan to Break Up Saudi Arabia, Sudan
TEHRAN -- In a speech at the American University of Beirut, George Galloway, a British Labour MP, revealed what he called were joint U.S. and British plans for breaking up Saudi Arabia and Sudan.
"American and British leaders are in the process of carrying out plans to break up Saudi Arabia and Sudan, and also expand Jordan's borders to areas in central Iraq," Galloway said in his speech published by the Lebanese daily ***Al-Bayan*** and quoted by IRNA in a dispatch from Beirut yesterday.
Galloway, a Scottish member of Parliament who is known for his views opposing the imperial policies of the United States, also sharply criticized some Arab leaders and organizations and called on Arabs in certain countries to "overthrow their oppressive governments."
"The entire world has protested against and condemned the United States and its policies, but you do nothing. How do you watch the current events and don't take any action in opposing them?" Galloway asked his audience of university students.
Meanwhile, in a related story, a Syrian lawyer said yesterday the U.S. is planning to break up "certain countries of the region once it has attacked Iraq."
IRNA quoted Mamdouh Rahmoun in Beirut as calling on Middle Eastern countries to promote solidarity among themselves in face of continuing U.S. and Israeli warlike policies in the region.
He also said that Turkey will never survive the hostile policies of the White House, and that the U.S. is planning to break up Turkey as well.
tehrantimes.com
The borders were, it seems to me, not all that logically drawn by "us" et al at the end of WWII.
And, I don't think we'll come close to having the last word on it. I suspect God will be the one to draw the final borders through whatever tools He uses.
Certainly it seems to me the Kurds should have a viable homeland that encompasses more or less all of them. I wonder about Jordan expanding East. Sounds good if they take all the "Palistinians" with them East of the Jordan river. The rest of it . . . is beyond my pondering.
George Galloway
Member of Parliament
Party: Labour
Backbencher
Constituency: Glasgow Kelvin
Scottish National Party target 18
Liberal Democrat target 106
Swing required to lose seat: 13.60%
George Galloway says:
On his proudest achievement in parliament since 1997: "I am proudest to have stood firmly against the new imperialism and Anglo-American aggression around the world. To have been a voice for the voiceless here in Britain, where so many have been marginalised in the fight for 'middle England', and in the canyons of depravation in the world."
Full text of George Galloway's speech
Full text of speech by George Galloway
Friday November 2, 2001
I do not have time. I believe that some of my hon. friends and some opposition members will join us in the lobby and that a substantial number of hon. members will abstain. We and the abstainers will only grow in number in the days to come.
There is a fantastic dislocation between the atmosphere in the chamber and the atmosphere outside in the country, and still more in the wider world. One would not think, listening to the secretary of state for defence, that more than half the population of this country want the bombing to stop now so that humanitarian aid can flood in.
One would not know, listening to some of my colleagues who often lecture us about feminism, that more than half the women in Britain are demanding an end to the war. One would not know, listening to the Liberal Democrat spokespeople, that more than half the Liberal voters in the country are demanding an end to the war. One would not know, listening to some Labour Members, that millions - if the opinion polls are right, some 12m to 14m people - in this country were demanding an end to the war, or that millions of them were Labour voters.
One certainly would not know from some hon. members who represent constituencies with substantial Muslim populations that there was great unease and opposition to the war in our country. One would not know that the campaign was going disastrously around the world. One would not know that it is scarcely possible for an American politician to set foot in the Arab countries. Our prime minister has to go as what The Wall Street Journal unkindly described as "the American ambassador" to those countries.
When our prime minister goes to Arab countries, he receives short shrift from the leaders whom he meets. As my hon. friend the member for Linlithgow said, countries such as Iran are unequivocally against the bombing. Syria lectured the prime minister yesterday against bombing. If anyone here thinks that public opinion in the Arab world is with them, they are living in cloud cuckoo land.
I have the benefit of watching Arab television, listening to the phone-in programmes and reading the Arab press. If Members of Parliament think that they have the support of the Islamic world - 1.3bn people stron - they are living in cloud cuckoo land.
Our new friend General Musharraf promised his people at the outset that the campaign would be short, sharp and targeted. The fact that it is neither short nor sharp is the reason why it is now a dagger pointed at his heart. Everyone in Pakistan knows it. More than 90% of the people of Pakistan are demanding that their government desist from co-operating in the savage bombardment of Afghanistan. That is a fact. The secretary of state for international development may think that General Musharraf is secure in his post. I do not know anyone else who thinks that the self-appointed president of Pakistan is in any way secure.
Sharp? B52s, sticks of bombs, carpet bombing - is that sharp? We saw just how accurate the targeted, laser-guided weapons were. Now we have moved to carpet bombing from B52s. We are told that the bombing is of military positions, as if the military lines in Afghanistan were somehow wholly separate from the villages and towns in which people lived, not to mention from the displaced people in Afghanistan.
Sharp? Cluster bombs? I never thought I would hear Labour spokespeople defending cluster bombs. Is the military struggle with the Taliban so finely poised that we cannot eschew the use of cluster bombs? I watched the secretary of state for international development on the beach at Brighton - done up in her mine-clearing suit - weeping about the victims of land mines. She knows that in so far as cluster bombs are not land mines they are worse than land mines, because land mines at least are mapped - land mines dropped from aeroplanes are by definition unmappable.
I only have time to deal with a couple of additional points. The aims of a campaign such as this cannot be separated from its likely outcome. Members who wish it to be restricted to Afghanistan are fooling themselves: this war is going to be extended to other countries. If they do not want that to happen, they must join us now. If they do not want the Northern Alliance, they must join us.
The Northern Alliance are the people who destroyed and beggared Afghanistan in the first place, whose mediaeval obscurantism put the women in chains, destroyed the towns and cities, took the women out of the universities, hanged the former President Najibullah from a lamp-post - they put his penis in his mouth and left him hanging to rot. That is the Northern Alliance - your new best friends who you hope to put into power.
My last point is this: we want this war stopped during Ramadan - not out of respect for the Muslims, but because it would give the government a chance, without losing face, to send a message to the Islamic world that they are going to pause during the holy month of Ramadan; that they are going to consider how the project has gone so far; that they are going to consult more widely; that they are going to try diplomacy; that they are going to try legal means and political means during that pause in the war; and that, above all, they are going to flood the country with humanitarian assistance - food and kindness - which will do far more to win the masses of Afghanistan to their cause than bombing them from B52s and bombing them with cluster bombs will ever do.
And name it for posterity as "the Galloway Plan"
"Oh and -- umm -- stop killing your people and overthrow yourselves. Thank you..." Forcing the writers of these columns to say "..he then went on to sharply criticize the government of Iran..."
Sounds like something a kindergartener would put together.
I suppose, considering the target audience...
File this with all of the DEBKA reports.
Another comment I would make is that, should we participate in the future redrawing of the map, we should not feel particularly guilty about that: this is just one of many such changes in that region. One of the reasons for the present-day lack of stability there is that it has not really settled on anything. Even if you take Israel out of the equation, the ancient animosity between the Persians and Arabs, Arabs and Turks, etc. will surface. The western press likes to ignore a VERY recent war between Iran and Iraq that claimed over 1,000,000 lives (instead, it keeps a daily count of those killed in the Palestinian conflict). The ancient scores are not settled.
Yeah, I think he is a leftist kook. Sorry he is from one of the sources of my heritage. Hey, your and his heritage has nothing to do with his sins. We all have crazy aunts in our families.
Carve out the oil rich eastern province from Saudi Arabia and split it between the friendly Gulf States and Kuwait. That should dry up some of the funds going to finance Islamic terrorists.
Leave the central region (Riyadh) and western region (Mecca and Medina) alone to minimize objections from other Islamic countries.
Gallowayland's initial territory will be the Mental Health wing of Royal Edinburgh Hospital with an option of expanding into other wings of the Hospital if immigration increases the population enough.
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