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Ayaan Hirsi Ali is member of the PvdA scientific organization. The PvdA is the former governing party (socialists) who were dropped by voters big time. They are the same people who allowed the extremists into this country and never acted against them.

Now we face the consequences.

1 posted on 09/21/2002 2:38:09 PM PDT by knighthawk
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A Somali woman living in the Netherlands has been put under police protection, after allegedly receiving death threats from extremist Muslims. On Dutch television earlier this week, Ayaan Hirsi Ali criticised fundamentalist Islamic communities for their treatment of women. Other Dutch Muslims who have been campaigning for women's rights say they too have been threatened, and that the Muslim community here in the Netherlands is increasingly divided.

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2 posted on 09/21/2002 2:39:10 PM PDT by knighthawk
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btttttt
4 posted on 09/21/2002 2:45:41 PM PDT by dennisw
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This is nothing new, it's always been like this."
5 posted on 09/21/2002 2:54:22 PM PDT by joesnuffy
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Muslims deny "the serious imbalance that exists in relationships between Muslim men and women", she said and added that, in this context, Islam could be called "a backward religion".

In just about any context, Islam (fundi's) could be called a backward religion.

6 posted on 09/21/2002 2:59:50 PM PDT by facedown
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There's a general sense that, following September 11 and the anti-immigrant backlash in several European countries, the Muslim community has turned inwards on itself. In this context, criticism from within its own quarters has invariably drawn a hostile response. In Mrs Arda's view, the only way out is to acknowledge that different views exist and to enter into a dialogue.

Oh yeah? We'll see. My guess is, when the IslamoNazis start blowing themselves to shreds among the crowded malls of the Western world, they're going to find little sympathy. I don't think we'll be quite as patient as the Israelis have been, to put it mildly. It's easy to sit back and watch Israel take it, and cry how bad the Palestinian "plight" is, until it comes to your own back yard. Things will come to a head soon. When you Euros, and for that matter, the American Left, have to peel the guts of your brothers and sisters off the wall, we'll see how much your "dialogue", and "tolerance", and "diversity", means to you. Your tune will change in a heartbeat, since you really don't have any principle in the first place.

Hmmm,come to think of it, maybe that's why the the suicide bombers haven't ventured into that frontier since 911. Maybe they know it's a real bad idea for them to come over this way. We'll see, won't we?

8 posted on 09/21/2002 11:43:35 PM PDT by FlyVet
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And here we thought Islam was the RELIGION OF PEACE! ;-)
9 posted on 09/21/2002 11:46:45 PM PDT by goldstategop
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"In Mrs Arda's view, the only way out is to acknowledge that different views exist and to enter into a dialogue."

They are trying to kill her and she actually thinks that you can dialogue with them. So it would go like this:

Islamakazi; "Ve are here to cut you to pieces with our long knives, Jinn female infadel trash!"

Mrs. Arda; "Could you use very sharp knives and make sure the blades are clean?" "Oh,one thing -- have you thought about the role of women in Islamic society since the last time we met and allowing equal rights?"

Islamakazi; "NO, ve have not but now we kill you with knives because stoning is not allowed in this backward Netherlands!"



11 posted on 09/22/2002 8:30:40 AM PDT by BeAllYouCanBe
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she said and added that, in this context, Islam could be called "a backward religion".

This was their first clue????

12 posted on 09/22/2002 8:36:35 AM PDT by js1138
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The Muslim immigrants repesent the law of unintended consequences for the elite white liberals throughout the western world. The elites figured that they could open the floodgates of immigration to the third world and then propagandize them with hatred of the west and western culture (thus assuring the elite leftists permanent electoral victories).

Unfortunately, they didn't predict that some of these immigrants would bring their retrograde social ideas with them (hatred of gays, oppression of women, etc).

If the very future of the West wasn't on the line, this would actually be humorous.

15 posted on 09/22/2002 9:03:38 AM PDT by quebecois
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Q: Why do muslim women veil?
A: To hide the bruises.
18 posted on 09/22/2002 10:41:35 PM PDT by RodgerD
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