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Democrats preparing for Jean Carnahan (D-Mo.) Defeat
The battle has just begun...
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| 09/19/2002
| Mark Preston
Posted on 09/19/2002 8:28:11 PM PDT by jdontom
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"By God, if Republicans think we are going to roll over while they try to jam through the harshest elements of the White House's right-wing agenda, they got another thing coming," said a senior Democratic aide speaking on the condition of anonymity. Its high time for the Republicans to get some backbone. I though if Jim Talent won we had the Majority, look for Trent Lott to conceed the fight in favor of the war of terror...
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posted on
09/19/2002 8:28:11 PM PDT
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jdontom
To: jdontom
Which means that the libertarians will be fielding a candidate in this race, as well, because if they can't win, then by god no republican will either...
Vote out the Dems!
To: jdontom
It does take time to organize. The benefit of this would be that the new Senate would be organized and ready to go in January, the minute the other new senators arrived. That means that on January 3rd, the judicial nominees would start flowing, the legislation would be scheduled, and the next two years would go smooth.
Now, all we have to do is get a new majority leader because I seriously doubt if Lott has learned anything about how to act as majority leader.
To: Chad Fairbanks
When Republicans lose, they lose on their own faults. Blaming libertarians is the easy way out but is a mistake.
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posted on
09/19/2002 8:39:55 PM PDT
by
alpowolf
To: jdontom
how hard would it be to outlaw midterm party switching? I foresee Lincoln Chaffey (sp?)pulling something come November.
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posted on
09/19/2002 8:40:51 PM PDT
by
Cosmo
To: jdontom
look for Trent Lott to conceed the fight in favor of the war of terror...Be assured Lott will concede anything and everything he possibly can. How much longer are the Senate Pubs gonna put up with that blow-dried weeny as their leader? All he knows about leading is how to lead the race to see who can cave to the Dems first.
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posted on
09/19/2002 8:42:54 PM PDT
by
epow
To: jdontom
""One thing is clear under such a scenario, we would never get anything done in the Senate," the staffer said." Really! You mean like not passing wasteful spending bills or gouging the citizens with rip off tax increases. Sounds ok to me!
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posted on
09/19/2002 8:43:45 PM PDT
by
StormEye
To: jdontom
If the GOP takes back the Senate, we need to Freep the GOP Senate members to NOT vote for Trent "Can't We All Just Get Along" Lott as majority leader.
To: jdontom
"We didn't do that in January [2001] when I was the Majority Leader for 14 days, so you wouldn't do it for a few days either.OH yeah? Little tommy still has some things to learn about the new and improved Bush #II.
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posted on
09/19/2002 8:47:00 PM PDT
by
tet68
To: jdontom
"By God, if Republicans think we are going to roll over while they try to jam through the harshest elements of the White House's right-wing agenda, they got another thing coming,"
Who are they kidding? When was the last time you met a DemocRat who believed in God?
To: jdontom
The democrats are always trying to claim the Republicans are fascist. However, if the democrats were honest with themselves, they would admit they (the democrats) are the real fascists.
After all, the DNC (headed by William Judas BenedictArnold Clinton's toady, Terry McAwful) is more properly known as the democrat NationalSocialist Committee.
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posted on
09/19/2002 8:59:40 PM PDT
by
punster
To: jdontom
"getting ready for the minority"
They already are the minority, they just don't know it yet!
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posted on
09/19/2002 9:07:45 PM PDT
by
CyberAnt
To: jdontom
But Republicans would not have full operating control of the chamber under such a scenario. Democrats plan to prevent the GOP from passing a new organizing resolution to give Republicans control of the committees if they seize power in a lame duck. And then that doddering simp "Vacant Lott" will promptly cede control to the dims, as he did in 2000. This clown is not only a discrace to the Republicans, he is a discrace to all upright-walking creatures with air-cooled gonads.
To: McGavin999
There appears to be a new wind blowing.
I heard Michael Medved say today that every Kennedy relation that was running this time lost.
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posted on
09/19/2002 9:41:12 PM PDT
by
Spunky
To: McGavin999
I had enough of Trent "no mojo" Lott during the Impeachment hearings.
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posted on
09/19/2002 10:31:49 PM PDT
by
Ronin
To: jdontom
I hope AG Ashcroft has a person at every polling place in the entire State of Missouri. They'll be importing dead people from Chicago to vote.
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posted on
09/20/2002 12:05:00 AM PDT
by
Fracas
To: Ronin
I`m no fan of Lott but he is in a no win position. He has to try to control the two ladies from Maine, Chafee,the nut from Penn.,along with all the rest. Gotta be like trying to herd cats. The best thing that can happen is that we beat the rats this fall.
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09/20/2002 1:07:45 AM PDT
by
bybybill
To: jdontom
But she is not going to lose, so that is not a question we are concerned about...IOW, the Fraud has already been bought and paid for. St. Louis and Kansas City 'rats had better do their job. Bring out yer dead!
To: jdontom
POLL from 9/3-5 by Research 2000: Talent 45% Carnahan 46% Margin of Error: 4%
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To: McGavin999
Lott receives unfair treatment around here, IMO.
I don't know specifically what people wanted him to do. From 1994-2000, he had a Democrat President and at most 47-48 reliably conservative GOP members in his caucus. The GOP does not rely on central party fundraising as do Democrats, so there are few sledgehammers with which a GOP Senate Majority leader can force his will on the Chafees, Jeffords, Specters, Snowes, Collins and Roths who make up the GOP Senatorial caucus.
It didn't matter WHO was Senate Majority leader durng that period, they would have needed 60 votes to override a Clinton veto or to end a stealth Senate Dem filibuster on a politically popular bill that would have been impossible for Clinton to veto. Those were real, profound shackles on his power.
Nothing is going to change should Talent beat Carnahan, except that NOW there will be a President to SIGN a 54-46 bill that has conservative principles. But, no truly conservative bill will get through to Bush, because the GOP - even if EVERY Senate race goes their way - will have no more than 54 Senate members next session and that is short of invoking cloture to end assured Democrat fillibusters.
That's the way the Senate works. The Dems are in lockstep because they all depend on Terry McAulliffe to feed them the union, lawyer and pro-government PAC money that goes through the DNC. Arlen Specter and Lincoln Chafee can raise copious money on their own ... GOP constituents HAVE money to donate, unlike the aged, poor and stupid that make up the Democrat constituency.
Lott is a conservative. If he had 60 conservative votes, the world would be a very different place. He did a good job forestalling Clinton's schemes. He took his Constitutionally-mandated Senate review and confirmation duties seriously regarding Clinton's judicial and executive appointments, however. I don't bust on him for that. Leahy and Daschele are engaging in gross misconduct.
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