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1 posted on 09/17/2002 1:57:13 PM PDT by jern
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2 posted on 09/17/2002 1:57:51 PM PDT by jern
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To: jern
Bump!
4 posted on 09/17/2002 2:02:00 PM PDT by callisto
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NC House rejects lottery referendum

Good move! Lottery for education funds is a joke.

8 posted on 09/17/2002 2:18:09 PM PDT by Luke FReeman
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To: jern
Does this mean fewer Dimocrats will show up to vote in November?
9 posted on 09/17/2002 2:20:40 PM PDT by Overtaxed
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"That Bubba can keep the lottery in South Carolina."


Up until last year, those of us in SC were subsidizing Georgia education by buying their ticks. Now we have the money staying in the state and the good people of NC helping us out. Due to the lottery in SC, all technical colleges reduced tuition in half, and for B and A students at all universities, scholarships were increased from $1500 to $2500. Yes, please let SC keep the lottery.....
20 posted on 09/17/2002 2:59:51 PM PDT by doosee
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To: jern
Eventually people start to realize that they very unlikely to win the lottery, and they stop buying tickets. Revenues from the Texas lottery are down.
28 posted on 09/17/2002 3:38:59 PM PDT by Paleo Conservative
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To: jern
Here's a later N&O story:

NC House rejects lottery referendum

By AMY GARDNER, STAFF WRITER

The state House of Representatives resoundingly defeated a proposal Tuesday to seek the opinion of voters on launching a statewide lottery.

The measure, which would have set a Nov. 5 referendum on the issue, failed 69-50, a far greater margin than expected even among those who predicted defeat.

Gov. Mike Easley has pushed the lottery to pay for his education agenda; Tuesday's vote delivers the first major defeat of his administration.

"Children are only 4 once," said Easley adviser Dan Gerlach immediately after the vote. He was referring to the pre-kindergarten program the governor had planned to fund with lottery proceeds.

Lottery opponents were thrilled with the vote, and they sought out television cameras and newspaper reporters crowding the hallways outside the House chamber.

"It's a defeat for the governor, no question," said House Minority Leader Leo Daughtry, a Smithfield Republican. "He simply could not get the votes, so I think it's a real blow to his leadership."

House Speaker Jim Black, meanwhile, blamed Republicans and his voice rose as his frustration showed through.

Black said the vote likely would reverberate in November -- to the Republicans' detriment. Polls have consistently shown that most North Carolinians favor a lottery when the proceeds are earmarked for education.

"I expect the people in the November election will remember who was willing to let them vote and who was not," he said.

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Whether of not to have a lottery was not nearly as important question, politically, as to whether to have a referendum on the lottery. This vote is a huge defeat for the Democrats, and for Governor Sleasley.

Speaker Black's assertion that "people in the November election will remember who was willing to let them vote and who was not" is so much whistling past the graveyard. In fact, the absence of the issue on the ballot should depress the turnout of the Dems' core constituencies. Had the measure been on the ballot, waves of "soft money" aimed to get out the vote would have the effect of doing just that. Marginal voters who might be persuaded to trek to the polls only because of this issue would be much more likely to be straight-ticket Dem voters.

The NC House and Senate votes are critical this November, because, after a court-won redistricting battle, the GOP actually has a chance to control the General Assembly. The first item on the agenda for the newly-elected House and Senate members will be to redistrict again, since the court-mandated lines are for the 2002 election only. The importance of this round of elections can't be emphasized enough.

Legislators who supported the referendum were cowardly. Nothing more and nothing less. They preferred political cover to making decisions. The referendum was to have been non-binding, as it must be according to the state constitution, and the wording of the ballot question was to have been so non-specific as to have been a joke.

One of the prime beneficiaries of the lottery was to have been pre-pre-school for four year olds. Does anyone remember parents?

29 posted on 09/17/2002 4:17:03 PM PDT by southernnorthcarolina
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Great to see this go down in flames. Those who think that the lottery is a tax on the poor and stupid are right, of course, but the issue for NC is a bit deeper. The State is mandated to match it's spending budget to projected (tax) revenues, and they failed to do their duty here, counting on this referendum. This would just inflate a hugely bloated state government (we already have higher taxes than MA). The state needs to do what every family does when it projects lower income - cut spending.

Also, the Democrats like the idea of a referendum just to attract voter turnout, of the aforementioned target groups.
31 posted on 09/17/2002 5:21:03 PM PDT by kcar
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To: jern
good news bump

I can hear the Parrot now: "Easley wants a lottery, Easley wants a lottery..."

JWinNC

34 posted on 09/17/2002 7:32:40 PM PDT by JWinNC
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To: jern
The lottery is a sucker bet, but if people want it, they shouldn't be prohibited. Lotteries and casino gaming are negative expectation events; in the long run you will certainly lose.

Horse racing and sports betting, however, give the savvy player a chance to come out ahead. Tough, but it can be done, and it's very satisfying when it happens. What's more, with internet betting, one need never leave home. I have a couple of small wagers on horses running in West Virginia and Toronto as I type this.
49 posted on 09/18/2002 6:37:03 PM PDT by kms61
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"Anti-lottery forces have been calling legislators this summer urging them to oppose a referendum. Opponents have included the Rev. Billy Graham and former UNC basketball player Dean Smith."


SACRILEGE!!!!

The News & Fishwrap must be run by a bunch of Bluebellies!!!

Harumph!

Dean Smith never played at UNC.

56 posted on 09/18/2002 7:50:50 PM PDT by gratefulwharffratt
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To: jern
Excellent news. Thanks for the post.
60 posted on 09/19/2002 4:44:04 AM PDT by Sandy
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