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Islamic cell 'had Disneyland and Las Vegas as targets'
The Telegraph (U.K.) ^ | 08/30/2002 | Oliver Poole and Sean O'Neill

Posted on 08/29/2002 5:12:37 PM PDT by Pokey78

Six men in America have been indicted on charges of supporting Islamic terrorist activities, including an alleged five-man "sleeper cell" in Detroit and a former worshipper at a radical mosque in London.

 
The MGM Grand Hotel in Las Vegas: police in Detroit found surveillance videos of the complex

The grand jury indictments are the first time since September 11 that an alleged terrorist unit has been exposed. They also mark an escalation in the US authorities' investigation of links between militants in America and Britain.

The suspected cell - some of whom worked at Detroit airport - are accused of having surveillance videos of Disneyland in California and the MGM Grand Hotel and Casino in Las Vegas that law enforcement agents believe were to be the targets of their attacks.

The government said the suspects were members of the Salafi Group for Call and Combat, a Muslim militant group launched in Algeria and supported by Osama bin Laden. They are also accused of trying to recruit terrorists for attacks on a US air base in Turkey and a hospital in Jordan.

Karim Koubriti, Ahmed Hannan, Youssef Hmimssa and Farouk Ali-Haimoud, all from Algeria or Morocco, have been in custody since last September. Another man known only as Abdella, who is believed to be the head of the unit, is still at large.

In Seattle, James Ujaama, 36, an American who is an associate of Sheikh Abu Hamza al-Masri, the radical imam of Finsbury Park mosque in north London, was charged with planning to set up a "jihad training camp" in Oregon.

He is not believed to have links with the Detroit-based group but instead has been accused of providing the al-Qa'eda terrorist network with "training, facilities, computer services, safe houses and personnel" and of attempting to establish the camp in 1999.

The FBI investigation of his activities is understood to be concentrating on his links with Abu Hamza. Federal sources say he was the real organiser behind the planned camp.

Abu Hamza admits that he knew Ujaama in London but maintains that they lost touch after he "disappeared".

Agents are understood to be trying to build up a strong case for the radical imam's extradition. A crucial witness is Feroz Abbasi, a young Briton being held at Camp X-Ray after being arrested by US forces in Afghanistan.

Abbasi, 22, from Croydon, south London, also attended the Finsbury Park mosque and is believed to have told interrogators that he was escorted from London to Afghanistan by Ujaama, who is also said to have used the trip to deliver computer equipment to the Taliban.


TOPICS: Foreign Affairs; Front Page News; News/Current Events; US: California; US: Nevada
KEYWORDS: abassi; abdella; alihaimoud; detroit; detroitcell; haimoud; hannan; hmimssa; koubriti
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1 posted on 08/29/2002 5:12:37 PM PDT by Pokey78
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To: Dark Wing
ping
2 posted on 08/29/2002 5:20:34 PM PDT by Thud
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To: Pokey78

The Disney Airforce will be taken out of mothballs and placed on alert.

All former pilots are directed to report at once.


3 posted on 08/29/2002 5:24:20 PM PDT by DoughtyOne
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To: Pokey78
And everyone thought that nothing was happening. It takes time to make a case against these guys, especially with all the anti-American liberal lawyers who are willing to take their cases.

Yep, things are going to start clicking along pretty soon. I expect we'll be seeing Osama's head on a pike before too long.

4 posted on 08/29/2002 5:25:56 PM PDT by McGavin999
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You have to check out Connie Chung's show - on right now. The lawyer and mother of one of those charged is on defending them. It's not illegal to have tapes of Disney and MGM -- everyone goes to visit Disney when they come to visit this country the lawyer says. THe illegal identification documents found in the apartment weren't found in his part of the living space -- on and it goes.
5 posted on 08/29/2002 5:30:54 PM PDT by freeperfromnj
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To: Pokey78
They could have been casing the FRiva Las Vegas conference. Laura Ingraham and Diotima would make intriguing targets.
6 posted on 08/29/2002 5:33:13 PM PDT by Notforprophet
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To: Pokey78
Makes you realize just how wise Spain was to throw out all moose limbs hundreds of years ago.

Maybe, just maybe, we started wising up in time in this country.

7 posted on 08/29/2002 5:42:40 PM PDT by nightdriver
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I think they'd be pretty stupid to target Disney. The last thing you want to do is make mothers angry- there'd be no stronger mandate for war than if the nation's mothers were screaming at Bush to crush the threat to their children.

Another thought that has been troubling me lately as far as targets is the Chunnel. I somehow doubt that the security is on the same level as that of an airport. On the French side they have a huge Muslim refugee camp built nearby. The refugees frenquently try to get in the Chunnel and make it to Great Britain. There's a lot of opportunity for wreaking havoc in that formula.

I believe when the Chunnel was built it was at the time the most expensive construction project ever conceived. The monetary loss would be spectacular as would the disruption in Chunnel traffic, not to mention it would be a high profile type operation that al Qaeda seems to like- Spielberg type destruction coupled with major loss of life. I know it must have crossed the jihadis minds...

8 posted on 08/29/2002 6:25:19 PM PDT by Prodigal Son
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To: Pokey78
Isn't this what anyone would expect of a satanic cult, if its devotees could carry it out?
9 posted on 08/29/2002 7:30:05 PM PDT by Savage Beast
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To: freeperfromnj
Chuck Fronnie Cung...
10 posted on 08/29/2002 9:49:38 PM PDT by Vidalia
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To: Pokey78
If they struck at the French Disneyland, would anybody even notice? That place is a bigtime loser. What the hell went thru Michael Eisner's mind when he chose France as the location of Disneyland? It is the WORST place on earth to locate a Disneyland. Even North Korea would have been better. Yeah, can you picture phony French intellectuals, after an evening of smoking smelly cigarettes and listening to horrible jazz going for a spin on the "It's A Small World" ride with Mickey and Donald?
11 posted on 08/29/2002 9:54:24 PM PDT by PJ-Comix
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What better way to offend the French than with a theme park. The French deserve Euro Disney.
12 posted on 08/30/2002 6:39:35 AM PDT by 2right
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And why would tourists to France even want to visit Euro Disney? Let's say you're an American tourist in Paris. What would you prefer to do? Stroll along the historic Left Bank, dine at a gourmet French cafe, or.....go for a stupid ride with Mickey and Goofy? The latter for me is about as likely as going to a McDonald's in Paris to dine (although I'm sure there are a few idiots who would take that option).
13 posted on 08/30/2002 6:45:37 AM PDT by PJ-Comix
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To: PJ-Comix
Hey now! Sometimes you want the taste of home when you are in frogland. I can tell you from personal experience the Maxi Sucre is pretty good. Of course they had no idea what an Egg McMuffin was... I had to point to it on the menu before they got it.
14 posted on 08/30/2002 6:51:45 AM PDT by oc-flyfish
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You bad mouth the French, and you have to answer to me mister!

Actually, the average French is at least 10 notches more intellectual than the average American. They rather go to the museum then to to watch Jerry Springer or Okrah!

It is bad streotypical to pick on France, a country that helped us gain independence, and a culture that most of the world borroed heavily from. However, if you don't understand my point, or you don't care about the facts, then all you have to do is go back to watching Jerry Spinger in your mobile home--Baba!

15 posted on 08/30/2002 6:56:32 AM PDT by philosofy123
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To: philosofy123
The French also have a lot of unfired guns for sell. Dropped only once...yada yada ;-)
16 posted on 08/30/2002 7:10:10 AM PDT by FreeAtlanta
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To: oc-flyfish
I heard they serve escargot at the Paris McDonalds....It's called McSlugs.
17 posted on 08/30/2002 7:17:30 AM PDT by PJ-Comix
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To: philosofy123
However, if you don't understand my point, or you don't care about the facts, then all you have to do is go back to watching Jerry Spinger in your mobile home--Baba!

And speaking of Jerry, there is still that mysterious French fascination with JERRY Lewis as some sort of cinematic genius.

18 posted on 08/30/2002 7:19:02 AM PDT by PJ-Comix
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To: philosofy123
Sadly, most of the 'good French' that helped us with our independence were killed in the French revolution by the mobs of leftist looting peasants that have ruled France in one way or another ever since...
19 posted on 08/30/2002 7:29:05 AM PDT by Black Agnes
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That is funny. I don't really understand the fascination of the French with Jerry Lewis!

Though I am a right winger, I found better intellectual conversations with leftists in Paris or Stanford! Leftists in New York or Boston are not real intellectuals.

20 posted on 08/30/2002 8:03:46 AM PDT by philosofy123
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