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To: Leisler
Great catch - thanks for the post. Paglia is, I think, a very astute observer of a left that seems more to have driven away from her than she away from it.

The principal weakness of leftist political doctrine is, IMHO, an over-adherence to some of its Marxist roots, specifically that social class is to be defined in economic terms. If this is accurate then the class relationships that are the underpinnings of the Marxist historical dynamic are invalidated by the changing economic status, or as Paglia states In the US, salaries of skilled manual labourers have long exceeded those of mid-level office staff.

This is the real victory of the proletariat, not a "dictatorship" as Marx proposed, but a rise in economic status with regard to the bourgeousie that essentially eliminates their former class rivalry, at least in economic terms. In cultural terms this is debatable, and may be in part responsible for the red/blue nation split we noted in the last election.

There is a third measure beyond the economic and cultural, the political, the separation of which from the economic is not allowed under Marxist theory, nor is the class mobility which gave rise to it. America's self-proclaimed "ruling class" maps to economic or cultural classes very imperfectly, in fact, is rapidly becoming an entity of itself: Such concentration of power in the State creates its own tyrannical master class. The left stubbornly refuses to recognize this fact, preferring to ignore this class in theory and attempt to suborn it in practice. This dichotomy describes where Lenin left Marx, but that was three-quarters of a century ago and the left is yet to really account for that, preferring instead to substitute murky jargon for theory and increasingly stale cliches for practice.

Marx had a phrase for this, too, "alienation." It wasn't supposed to happen to the left.

9 posted on 08/20/2002 8:25:21 AM PDT by Billthedrill
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To: Billthedrill
"or as Paglia states In the US, salaries of skilled manual labourers have long exceeded those of mid-level office staff."

Let's just put this in plain English. Manual laborers are rewarded more in a Marxian society because their loyalty is more easily bought. The thick-headed are a natural target for class warfare, since many of the simple-minded resent their smarter neighbors. Call it Marx's Revenge Of The Boneheads.

Michael

11 posted on 08/20/2002 8:38:30 AM PDT by Wright is right!
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To: Billthedrill
Well said, and way above me. I agree, but there is even a layer deeper and more elemental. They hate. They hate in a low, fecal, tear down way, America, and Americans and every thing good and fine, popular and basic. They get off on destruction of America; it kicks off endomorphins in them. In the end it is not so much logic, or reason, but feeling-i.e., chemicals. This is why arguing doesn’t work with them. They are my enemy. I hate them so. Honest.
15 posted on 08/20/2002 8:48:43 AM PDT by Leisler
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To: Billthedrill
You make some great points. Another angle is that faced with the most prosperous economy in world history, Marxists have been applying their failed model to areas of the society that cannot be measured as easily as GDP and employment. Hence we see men "oppressing" women, heterosexuals "oppressing" homosexuals, whites "oppressing" blacks, etc. We are supposed to side with these proletariats, so to speak, in a quasi revolution against their bourgois masters.

I love Camille Paglia, but I think she falls in with the rest of the aging boomers in the academy, government, and the media who simply cannot give up the crusade of their glory days. She gave a great critique of the left, but I was left wondering why she doesn't simply drop it and vote Republican.
23 posted on 08/20/2002 9:50:17 AM PDT by SupplySider
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