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IF the accident scenario described above is accurate, it certainly shows the value of spending an extra $10 million to help avoid losing a $159 million dollar mission, doesn't it?

Cost-cutting doesn't always cut costs.

1 posted on 08/19/2002 12:17:30 PM PDT by cogitator
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Here is a mission that could have benefited from new tech, ion or plasma motors in particular. Solid boosters may be cheap and reliable, but they are relatively inefficient. Also the force applied by the solid motor on the rest of the spacecraft is relatively large. A cool, calm, sedate ride on an ion motor all the way out would have gotten CONTOUR where it needed to go, quicker, faster, better, and with more payload.
2 posted on 08/19/2002 12:23:20 PM PDT by RightWhale
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Better... Faster... Cheaper... Pick 2 out of 3...
3 posted on 08/19/2002 12:24:14 PM PDT by Frank_Discussion
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Reminds me of one that was launched a few years ago without all the software onboard, by the time the software was written and tested it was out of uploading range. I suppose that puppy is on the other side of creation by now. "Haste makes waste".
4 posted on 08/19/2002 12:25:01 PM PDT by Howie
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"Better. Faster. Cheaper. Choose TWO..."
5 posted on 08/19/2002 12:45:31 PM PDT by pabianice
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"Worse, Slower, More Expensive",

won't solve the problem either.

EXNASA
7 posted on 08/19/2002 1:13:30 PM PDT by John Jamieson
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When I was a project manager, I had a sign on my office wall:

BETTER, FASTER, CHEAPER.

PICK ONE.

9 posted on 08/19/2002 1:54:20 PM PDT by Harrison Bergeron
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Better, Faster, Cheaper" May Have Claimed Another Satellite

There's nothing wrong with the "Faster, better, cheaper" paradigm per se; part of the cost of FBC is the acceptance of some failures. One should become concerned when the failure rate begins to exceed a reasonable amount -- in planetary exploration, say, greater than 20% or so.

One must remember the historical context for FBC -- in the 1980's, we had billion-dollar missions that failed (seemingly every time you turned around), not because of ill-luck as this one appears to be, but because of institutionalized incompetence (e.g., Hubble mirror flaw; the Galileo high-gain antenna). The thought was that by making missions "smaller" (focused missions with a few, carefully chosen instruments and no "Christmas tree"-ing of spacecraft with every instrument under the sun) and making them "faster" (small, lean organizations that flew missions, drawing board to data return, within ~3 years, as opposed to the decade-scale, mega-missions of the '80s), you made them "better" -- because you actually got data and science, instead of welfare for the engineering infrastructure of JPL.

FBC works. That was shown in the Clementine, Lunar Prospector, NEAR, and Pathfinder missions. Even if CONTOUR is lost, the management philosophy it was designed and built under has not been "discredited."

13 posted on 08/20/2002 8:08:25 AM PDT by Cincinatus
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Hey, what's another hundred million in space junk?

With NASA throwing that kind of cash at the smallest, least significant projects, it is easy to see why no one has any interest in commercial space ventures. Why would they want to deal with people trying to make money with NASA dumping truckloads of cash at the drop of a hat.

14 posted on 08/20/2002 8:17:02 AM PDT by hopespringseternal
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