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Need help finding cite for "80% of Media Votes Democrat"
7/24/02 | Clink

Posted on 07/24/2002 12:59:18 PM PDT by Clink

I'm currently having a "debate" with a bleeding heart liberal (who tells me that he is a moderate) that loves Bill Clinton. He goes so far as to state that Bill Clinton will go down in history as one of our greatest presidents. I told him that he was half right, that Bill Clinton would go down.

Anyway, this poor demented soul does not believe that there is a liberal bias in the media. When I told him that 80% of the media voted Democratic he did not believe me and asked me to provide a cite. I distinctly remember reading this but cannot remember where. If anyone can point me to a cite of this I would be greatly appreciative. If possible, point me to a "liberal" source or he will claim that I got it off of one of my "right-wing nazi sites".


TOPICS: Miscellaneous; Politics/Elections
KEYWORDS: clinton; democrat; goingdown; media
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1 posted on 07/24/2002 12:59:19 PM PDT by Clink
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To: Clink
Try here.
2 posted on 07/24/2002 1:08:54 PM PDT by tacticalogic
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To: Clink
Clip...

JOURNALISTS `APOLITICAL'? Studies show most call themselves liberals who vote for Democrats

That newsrooms are mostly staffed by political liberals is pretty much beyond dispute, although a few keep trying to argue the point. CBS anchorman Dan Rather -- who declined to be interviewed for this story -- frequently says journalists are apolitical. ''Most reporters don't know whether they're Republican or Democrat, and vote every which way . . . [They] would fall in the general category of kind of common-sense moderates,'' he said in 1995.

But there are plenty of studies, dating back to the 1930s, that prove him wrong: Most journalists describe themselves as liberal and vote Democratic, and among the profession's elite -- the staffs of the three major networks, the weekly news magazines and influential papers such as The Washington Post and The New York Times -- the political skew is overwhelmingly to the left:

• A comprehensive study published in 1981 by the nonpartisan Center for Media and Public Affairs showed that 54 percent of elite journalists identified themselves as liberal but only 19 percent as conservatives. In every presidential election between 1964 and 1976, at least 80 percent of them voted Democratic.

• A 1996 study of Washington bureau chiefs and congressional correspondents by the independent journalism foundation Freedom Forum found that 89 percent of them voted for Bill Clinton in 1992, and just 7 percent for George Bush. Sixty-one percent said they were liberals, only 9 percent conservatives; 50 percent were Democrats, only 4 percent Republicans.

Whether the personal politics of journalists color their reporting is more difficult to pin down, although some of Goldberg's arguments about distorted stories are statistically verifiable.

It took 2 minutes for me to find this. give the lib. some facts.

copy paste link below:
http://www.miami.com/mld/miamiherald/entertainment/columnists/glenn_garvin/2879898.htm

3 posted on 07/24/2002 1:09:59 PM PDT by demlosers
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To: Clink
The book is called Slander, and it's written by Ann Coulter.

4 posted on 07/24/2002 1:14:55 PM PDT by conservatism_IS_compassion
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To: Clink
My post #3 is from the Miami Herald newspaper site. Should be main-stream enough for your debate.
5 posted on 07/24/2002 1:17:37 PM PDT by demlosers
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To: tacticalogic
Great site.
6 posted on 07/24/2002 1:18:32 PM PDT by jackbill
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To: Clink
Slander is a must-read, I can't honestly say if it has that particular citation--but it does have 35 pages of footnotes.
7 posted on 07/24/2002 1:19:06 PM PDT by conservatism_IS_compassion
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To: Clink
Check out Free Republic's own media site...

CCRM is a Free Republic Network affiliate working to reduce media bias.

For a comprehensive overview of Freeper thoughts on Liberal Media bias, check out our website by clicking on graphic, or HERE: We call it Fairpress.org.

This thread is evidence that liberal bias is still with us. Come join our team and engage in the battle against the Liberal Media.

8 posted on 07/24/2002 1:21:31 PM PDT by bert
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To: jackbill
Almost too good. You can't get through it all without having to go outside and scream or throw up at regular intervals.
9 posted on 07/24/2002 1:22:44 PM PDT by tacticalogic
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To: tacticalogic
Thank you.
10 posted on 07/24/2002 1:37:11 PM PDT by Clink
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To: demlosers
Thank you.
11 posted on 07/24/2002 1:37:36 PM PDT by Clink
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To: conservatism_IS_compassion
Thank you.
12 posted on 07/24/2002 1:38:05 PM PDT by Clink
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To: bert
Thank you.
13 posted on 07/24/2002 1:38:44 PM PDT by Clink
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To: Clink
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/fr/523109/posts

Conservatism is concerned with "securing the blessings of liberty to ourselves and out posterity." That multigenerational outlook requires concern for what has happened in the distant past which might recur in the distant future.

Journalism is concerned only with the immediate past and the immediate future.

In light of those fact, ask yourself one question: why would conservatives be journalists? They wouldn't want to, and they wouldn't be good at it.

14 posted on 07/24/2002 1:44:00 PM PDT by conservatism_IS_compassion
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It appears you will not find any polls taken from ABC, CBS, CNN, MSNBC, NPR ect... about who they voted for. They must know the answer already.
You'll just have to rely on lesser known polster companies and polling done by universities. The leftist media doesn't want their bias beknown.
15 posted on 07/24/2002 1:46:18 PM PDT by demlosers
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Thanks to all who replied. I see now that I first read this in Bernie Goldberg's book, BIAS. I have this book and asked this "gentleman" to read it. He replied, "Why should I believe anything he has to say?" It didn't matter that Goldberg could be considered a liberal who had seen the light. I guess once a liberal admits to bias in the media, he then becomes a conservative who is not to be trusted.
16 posted on 07/24/2002 1:48:30 PM PDT by Clink
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The "gentleman" in question told me he would believe it if I could find it on the Gallup Poll site. I went there and could not find any kind of article/poll which addressed my
contention. If the Miami-Herald article is not good enough for him then there is no sense in even trying to convince him otherwise as he is extremely liberal, yet calls himself
a moderate. (Which interestingly enough, Bernie Goldberg states on page 1 of BIAS that "...the media divide Americans into two groups--moderates and right-wing nuts".)
17 posted on 07/24/2002 1:58:15 PM PDT by Clink
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"The "gentleman" in question told me he would believe it if I could find it on the Gallup Poll site."

Well, you'll never find anything of the kind on the Gallup site for one simple reason - Gallup polls THE PUBLIC. It does not poll within orgranizations nor within a business-community subset. Since the eastern press is a business-community subset and not the general public, Gallup would have no reason to poll them.

For another look, get your friend to read "Coloring The News" by William McGowan. It's a much more scholarly look at the situation than Bernie's "Bias," which is more anecdotal in nature.

Michael

18 posted on 07/24/2002 2:08:32 PM PDT by Wright is right!
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To: Clink
Ann Coulter cites the statistic in her book Scandal.
19 posted on 07/24/2002 2:16:49 PM PDT by IronJack
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To: Wright is right!
Thanks Michael.
20 posted on 07/24/2002 2:19:07 PM PDT by Clink
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