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Government: Man indicted on phony check charge says he could provide terrorism information
AP | July 24, 2002 | AP

Posted on 07/24/2002 12:04:54 PM PDT by The Energizer

Government: Man indicted on phony check charge says he could provide terrorism information

The government is investigating whether Shishani has ties to terrorist organizations, but his name is not on the terrorist watch list created by U.S. intelligence agencies.

Two of the checks found were for $5 million each; two were for $500,000 each; and five were for $200,000 each, an affidavit said. The checks, labeled ``cashier check,'' were purportedly issued by the Pomona, Calif., branch of West America Bank.

Shishani's brother, Ali, said Wednesday that he had little information on the checks found in his brother's possession other than they were given to his brother in Indonesia, to which Omar Shishani often travels on business trips.

``My brother didn't break any laws,'' Ali Shishani said from Amman, Jordan. ``The checks were in his pocket, but he didn't use them or try to cash them.''

A fraud investigator for the bank said there was no Pomona branch and the checks were labeled incorrectly, Special Agent Clarence T. Laster of the U.S. Secret Service said in the affidavit. The bank's authentic checks are labeled ``official check.''

Several people have been arrested in the Las Vegas area for passing similar checks, Laster said.

Authorities have searched Shishani's home, but the results of the search were sealed.

Family members in Jordan say they have not been in touch with the Shishani or his lawyer, but have spoken with seven other brothers in the United States.

Ahmad Shishani, another of Shishani's brothers in Jordan, said Omar Shishani has ``absolutely no links at all with any terrorist group or al-Qaida'' and that his brother is simply a wealthy computer salesman who travels often.

Omar Shishani was born to a middle-class family in the minority Chechen community in Zarqa, 17 miles northeast of the capital, Amman. He immigrated to the United States 20 years ago, where he married an alien resident of Japanese origin. He holds both the Jordanian and American passports.

The maximum penalty for the possession of counterfeit securities charge is 10 years in prison and a $250,000 fine; for smuggling of merchandise the maximum penalty is five years in prison and a $250,000 fine.


TOPICS: Crime/Corruption; News/Current Events; US: Michigan
KEYWORDS: chechnia; jordan; phonychecks; terrorism
Why are people from terrorist nations allowed to have dual citizenship?
1 posted on 07/24/2002 12:04:54 PM PDT by The Energizer
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To: The Energizer
Why are people from terrorist nations allowed to have dual citizenship?

So that people won't say mean things about Republicans.




2 posted on 07/24/2002 12:10:50 PM PDT by Sabertooth
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To: The Energizer
Here is a link for a little more insight to this clymer: (Man tied to al-Qaida lived in Napa Sunday, July 21, 2002 By FRANK HARTZELL Register Managing Editor )
3 posted on 07/24/2002 12:12:20 PM PDT by Grampa Dave
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To: The Energizer
I dunno, but when I saw his lawyer try to spin this earlier today, I LMAO.
4 posted on 07/24/2002 12:15:02 PM PDT by Catspaw
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To: Grampa Dave; Jhoffa_; Mo1
Sounds like he was bringing funding here for a future operation...

$12 Million will buy a lot of stuff.

We need to see what we can find out on this bank.....and who he met overseas...

5 posted on 07/24/2002 12:18:50 PM PDT by Dog
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To: The Energizer
Hmmm, now the guy is a wealthy computer salesman. On a thread running the other day, the guy claimed to be a salesman who had earned no commissions this year.

I just assumed he must be a stockbroker! ;-)

6 posted on 07/24/2002 12:19:50 PM PDT by mombonn
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To: The Energizer
"Ahmad Shishani, another of Shishani's brothers in Jordan, said Omar Shishani has ``absolutely no links at all with any terrorist group or al-Qaida'' and that his brother is simply a wealthy computer salesman who travels often".

OH, OK. That's that. Sorry, our mistake. You can go home now.

7 posted on 07/24/2002 12:41:15 PM PDT by capydick
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To: capydick
How is a guy going to cash a phony cashiers check. Certainly no bank is going to make funds available on a deposit that large until it clears the issuing bank, which presumeably would not transfer the funds. Unless, he went to some stupe and offered to sell him the check at some discount - but how many people would fall for that and how many would have the millions in their account to buy a bad check. There must be some scam out there I don't know about to get cash out of counterfit cashiers checks written for millions of dollars!
8 posted on 07/24/2002 12:48:27 PM PDT by tripod
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To: tripod
I had precisely the same reaction. I work with a lot of banks, and I can't imagine any of them making $5 million available in an account on the strength of a cashier's check without at least some attempt to verify that the check is genuine. Bank check forgeries are very common these days -- a function of the sophistication and widespread availability of computer graphics technology. Look at the web sites of the bank regulatory agencies (Federal Reserve, OCC, FDIC and OTS). You will see an alert almost every day about forged bank checks.

In this case, since the check was written on a branch that didn't exist, red flags would have gone up immediately. I would like to think that our terrorist enemies were that stupid and unsophisticated, but I doubt that is so. There is something funny about this whole story.

9 posted on 07/24/2002 1:03:35 PM PDT by blau993
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To: mombonn
Here's the latest version of the story. Note that the man to whom the checks were made out to named his daughter al-Qaida. Can you imagine roll call in school? Ha!

Mich. Suspect May Have al-Qaida Info

By ALEXANDRA R. MOSES=

Associated Press Writer=

DETROIT (AP) An Arab-American charged with smuggling $12 million in bogus cashiers checks into the United States told agents that the man named on the checks may belong to al-Qaida, authorities said Wednesday.

Omar Shishani, 47, also told investigators that he can provide them with information on terrorism, Assistant U.S. Attorney Eric Straus said during a hearing.

Defense attorney Nabih Ayad said his client never made such statements and family members in Jordan said Shishani was simply a wealthy computer salesman.

Shishani was arrested last week after arriving at Detroit Metropolitan Airport on a flight from Indonesia. He was jailed without bond Wednesday after pleading innocent to possession of counterfeit securities and smuggling merchandise into the United States. He faces up to 15 years in prison.

Shishani was asked about terrorism during an interview with federal agents. According to Straus, he answered: ``If you want to know about terrorism, I can help you with that.''

Authorities say they found nine phony cashiers checks during a search of Shishani's bags. Six were dated June 10, 2002, and made payable to ``Baharuddin Masse,'' according to the indictment. The other checks were dated Sept. 3, Sept. 5 and Sept. 6, 2002.

Shishani told agents he believes Masse may belong to al-Qaida, has made pro-al-Qaida statements and named his daughter al-Qaida, Straus said. The suspect's attorney said he only said the part about the girl.

Two of the checks were for $5 million each; two were for $500,000 each; and five were for $200,000 each, the affidavit said. The checks, labeled ``cashier check,'' were purportedly issued by the Pomona, Calif., branch of West America Bank.

There is no Pomona branch and the checks were labeled incorrectly, Secret Service agent Clarence T. Laster said in the affidavit. Several people have been arrested in the Las Vegas area for passing similar checks, Laster said.

Authorities have searched Shishani's home in nearby Dearborn, but the results of the search were sealed.

Shishani was born in Jordan. He emigrated to the United States 20 years ago, where he married. He holds both the Jordanian and American passports, and his lawyer described him as a broker.

Shishani's brother, Ali, said he had little information on the checks other than they were given to his brother in Indonesia, to which Omar Shishani often travels on business.

``My brother didn't break any laws,'' Ali Shishani said from Amman, Jordan. ``The checks were in his pocket, but he didn't use them or try to cash them.''

Ahmad Shishani, another of Shishani's brothers in Jordan, said Omar Shishani has ``absolutely no links at all with any terrorist group or al-Qaida'' and that his brother is a wealthy computer salesman who travels often.

10 posted on 07/24/2002 1:06:06 PM PDT by The Energizer
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To: blau993
Indeed there is something funny about this whole story. And with our lazy and ignorant press who can't zero in on the obvious we will probably never hear about how this guy was going to turn trash into cash!
11 posted on 07/24/2002 1:10:17 PM PDT by tripod
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To: Dog; Shermy; Dog Gone; Travis McGee; Squantos; Clovis_Skeptic; Joe Montana
He may have just been a con artist who happened to be from Jordan ?, or he could be another of these incredible money making and money laundry machines for the al Qaeda.

The fact that he named one of his daughters, al Qaeda, if true, shows the arrogance that these bastards have had.

I think that when we really start to find out the truth about these deep moles, we will find that many have been here for one or two decades.

Also, the financial links from these enterprising Islamakazis to others will be a fascinating trail. How many of the left wing blacks in congress will have a bloody money trail from these critters? McKinney of Georgia and Barbara Lee of Bezerkley spring to the top of the list.
12 posted on 07/24/2002 1:43:51 PM PDT by Grampa Dave
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To: tripod
I have been watching replays of his sister-in-law laughing at the suggestion that this guy could possibly be connected with terrorism. Doesn't everyone walk around with 12 mil worth of phoney checks in their pockets as a joke? Watch CNN and you will "realize" this is just another overreaction by Ashcroft. You know like the dirty bomber who is having his constitutional right abused,

The press still refuses to admit that Daniel Pipes was generally correct in his conclusions about Islamists in this country. You can only conclude that the left leaning press actually wants another 9/11. Why -- I don't know. Perhaps they see themselves and like minded politicians picking up the pieces?

13 posted on 07/24/2002 1:44:09 PM PDT by JimSEA
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To: tripod
Youre right,especially if the check is an obvious forgery. But,just as there are scams selling counterfeit food stamps, there probaby is the same thing going on for phoney checks. Another thought - what if he were a decoy for somebody or something else going on? In other words,just like the drug dealers do - let the Feds bust 1 kilo of something while 10 kilo's get thru the other door.
14 posted on 07/24/2002 1:57:31 PM PDT by capydick
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To: capydick
I am certain there are all kinds of phony check schemes going on - but for 5 million at a pop? It still doesn't compute with me. The second part of your thought does make sense. Supose he was a decoy while someone else on that flight was bringing in something else. I bet he would have had a whole group of inspectors tied up.
15 posted on 07/24/2002 2:05:35 PM PDT by tripod
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To: tripod
Yea - the 5 million is absurd but, that may be the point:

1)Decoy gets caught with a number of phoney checks written for HUGE amounts.

2)Feds and press make big deal of the bust.

3)Meanwhile, a peace loving member of Islam gets thru customs with nary a notice with checks written in smaller denominations or something else which aids their Jihad.

Hopefully the Feds are looking at the manifest to see who else was on that flight but, it's probably too late for any action by now. Another possible win for the bad guys.

16 posted on 07/24/2002 2:23:10 PM PDT by capydick
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To: tripod
"How is a guy going to cash a phony cashiers check."

No, No No.

It is part of a clever devilish plot.
While we are on the lookout that they might blow up the Brooklyn Bridge,
they are going to buy the Brooklyn Bridge.
17 posted on 07/24/2002 2:30:55 PM PDT by APBaer
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