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To: happygrl
>>>>>Do you know of a good biography of Attaturk ?<<<<

remember Gallipoli and how The Brits used Aussies as cannon fodder who were mowed down?

Well, the Turkish commanding officer was Colonel Kemal Pasha who was promoted to General for this feat.

Of course, as a General, he was in position to owerthrow the Sultan and become Ataturk ( father of Turkey)

What's a coupla of Aussies as a price to put your man in place.

This is good lesson how things really work.

9 posted on 07/11/2002 2:25:43 PM PDT by DTA
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To: All; *Canada
there is something fishy with this article.

There is an ongoing furor in Canada because sultana raisins imported from Turkey in the last decade contained approx. 100X more lead than allowed by Canadianlaw.
Health Canada (Canadian Ministry of Health) warned importers, but import continued, even Canadian Ministry of Foreign affairs intervened on Turkish behalf! In comparrison, FDA forbade import upon hearing of Canadian findings.

The lead poisoning of Canadians was allowed in order not ot not to upset the Turks who were prospective buyers of Canadian nuclear technology.

I feel that NATIONAL POST was hard pressed to write something positive about Turkey.

10 posted on 07/11/2002 2:37:47 PM PDT by DTA
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To: DTA; a_Turk
Yes, the ANZAC forces were mowed down; WWI was a bloody, useless war which never should have been fought and it set the stage for the rest of the 20th Century horrors.

As a military brat and a student of history, what surprises me is the respect which military forces accord their foes.

The Turks have always been recognized as ferocious fighters; we are fortunate to have them as allies now.

On ANZAC Day, as the descendents of the valiant men who died at Gallipoli visit the beach, the Turkish people there accord them hospitality and honor.

It seems to me that the villains at Gallipoli were as much the British commanders who allowed the ANZAC forces to be used as fodder, more than the Turks who were doing what the opponent is tasked to do: kill the enemy.

17 posted on 07/12/2002 9:52:38 AM PDT by happygrl
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To: DTA
What's a coupla of Aussies as a price to put your man in place.

Now really, the Aussies have a legitimate beef with Churchill and the other British commanders regarding Gallipoli. But how can you blame an opposing colonel for doing his job well in defense of his own soil?

-ccm

20 posted on 07/14/2002 9:03:24 PM PDT by ccmay
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