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Why Turkey Matters ('coz it's lo-fat?)
National Post (Canada) ^
| 7/11/2002
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Posted on 07/11/2002 10:38:29 AM PDT by a_Turk
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Oddly enough, if you follow the link I provided in the first paragraph above, and then continue with the
Leaders and Revolutionaries link, you won't see Ataturk listed. His name was eliminated by the staff of Time Magazine...
The author is a bit fatalistic. The Turkish political scene is undergoing a reorg. There's no need for worry about Islamists. There are two Islamist parties, one fundamentalist (old people) and the other progressive (young people), their combined share in the vote is about 20%, and they do not get along with each other.
The Prime Minister just pressured the Foreign Minister and the Economy Czar to resign, which they did. The President, however, immediately pressured the Prime Minister to cancel the resignation of the Economy Czar, who then withdrew his resignation. The President is a figure who wields some power in keeping the politicians in line. 25 years ago, it would have been the military yelling at the PM.
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posted on
07/11/2002 10:38:29 AM PDT
by
a_Turk
To: Shermy; Nogbad; Turk2; LJLucido; He Rides A White Horse; Fiddlstix; Torie; MHGinTN; hogwaller; ...
ping
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posted on
07/11/2002 10:39:19 AM PDT
by
a_Turk
To: a_Turk
No, 'coz it tastes good..
To: a_Turk
Sounds like good news. Unless Time sells a third of its magazines in Turkey, this would show that the "Young Turks" are computer savvy and wired to the net, and know how to freep!
:)
"Lo-fat"?
Turkish Cheeses
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posted on
07/11/2002 10:51:24 AM PDT
by
Shermy
To: Shermy
The word is "peynir."
To: a_Turk
The writer of this piece does not have a clue of how Turkey works. THE SKY IS FALLING, can't count on Turkey, it's gonna be a mess. BS, if fundamentalists somehow miraculously got into power, the military would move in so fast that it would make the fundamentalists heads spin.
Turkey is the one country in the region that we count on, the sky is not falling, and will not be allowed to fall. The military takes it's job VERY seriously and will handle it if it ever came to that.
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posted on
07/11/2002 11:06:16 AM PDT
by
Aric2000
To: a_Turk
Attaturk is an unacknowledged (by the West) hero of the 20th Century.
Do you know of a good biography of Attaturk ?
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posted on
07/11/2002 11:57:36 AM PDT
by
happygrl
To: happygrl
Unrecognized
Because he scuttled their plans?
Biography
The best one I know is called "Ataturk" and was authored by Lord Kinross. ISBN 0-688-11283-8
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posted on
07/11/2002 12:48:07 PM PDT
by
a_Turk
To: happygrl
>>>>>Do you know of a good biography of Attaturk ?<<<<
remember Gallipoli and how The Brits used Aussies as cannon fodder who were mowed down?
Well, the Turkish commanding officer was Colonel Kemal Pasha who was promoted to General for this feat.
Of course, as a General, he was in position to owerthrow the Sultan and become Ataturk ( father of Turkey)
What's a coupla of Aussies as a price to put your man in place.
This is good lesson how things really work.
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posted on
07/11/2002 2:25:43 PM PDT
by
DTA
To: All; *Canada
there is something fishy with this article.
There is an ongoing furor in Canada because sultana raisins imported from Turkey in the last decade contained approx. 100X more lead than allowed by Canadianlaw.
Health Canada (Canadian Ministry of Health) warned importers, but import continued, even Canadian Ministry of Foreign affairs intervened on Turkish behalf! In comparrison, FDA forbade import upon hearing of Canadian findings.
The lead poisoning of Canadians was allowed in order not ot not to upset the Turks who were prospective buyers of Canadian nuclear technology.
I feel that NATIONAL POST was hard pressed to write something positive about Turkey.
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posted on
07/11/2002 2:37:47 PM PDT
by
DTA
To: a_Turk
Sounds like your politics are just as convoluted as here in the U.S. Thanks for the extra comments telling us not to worry. (Good luck, and I hope you're right!)
To: a_Turk
Kinross wrote a very readable history of the Ottomans in a great book called
The Ottoman Centuries. I have not been able to find a copy of his Ataturk biography though.
Will post a comparison and contrast between Churchill and Atatruk later.
To: Aric2000
I absolutely agree with you.
To: Mortimer Snavely
Snavely,
http://www.abebooks.com has a long list of used "Ataturk" by Lord Kinross. I'm there now picking out my own copy.
To: happygrl
Prompted by my buddy Mort, I checked on Amazon and found that the book I had suggested is indeed out of print. There are other books there, however, you will find when you search for "Ataturk."
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posted on
07/11/2002 7:18:37 PM PDT
by
a_Turk
To: happygrl
Scroll up a bit and look at the link Waterdragon provided Mort with. I just checked it out and there are lots of them there.
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posted on
07/11/2002 7:24:00 PM PDT
by
a_Turk
To: DTA; a_Turk
Yes, the ANZAC forces were mowed down; WWI was a bloody, useless war which never should have been fought and it set the stage for the rest of the 20th Century horrors.
As a military brat and a student of history, what surprises me is the respect which military forces accord their foes.
The Turks have always been recognized as ferocious fighters; we are fortunate to have them as allies now.
On ANZAC Day, as the descendents of the valiant men who died at Gallipoli visit the beach, the Turkish people there accord them hospitality and honor.
It seems to me that the villains at Gallipoli were as much the British commanders who allowed the ANZAC forces to be used as fodder, more than the Turks who were doing what the opponent is tasked to do: kill the enemy.
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posted on
07/12/2002 9:52:38 AM PDT
by
happygrl
To: happygrl
Ataturk's words for the Anzac who fell at Gallippoli and their mothers:
You heroes who shed their blood and lost their lives
.
You are now lying in the soil of a friendly country therefore rest in peace.
There is no difference between the Johnnies and the Mehmets to us where they lie side by side here in this country of ours
.
You, the mothers who sent their sons from far away countries wipe away your tears; your sons are now lying in our bosom and are in peace after having lost their lives on this land. They have become our sons as well.
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posted on
07/12/2002 10:23:58 AM PDT
by
a_Turk
To: a_Turk
Beautiful and healing words from a remarkable man.
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posted on
07/12/2002 10:59:57 AM PDT
by
happygrl
To: DTA
What's a coupla of Aussies as a price to put your man in place. Now really, the Aussies have a legitimate beef with Churchill and the other British commanders regarding Gallipoli. But how can you blame an opposing colonel for doing his job well in defense of his own soil?
-ccm
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posted on
07/14/2002 9:03:24 PM PDT
by
ccmay
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