God and Evolution

Stands to Reason ^ | Gregory Koukl

[Khepera]

Praise to God and his glory.

[ppaul]

Yeah.
And a shad is still a shad.
A fish is still a fish.
I've yet to have anybody show me, in the fossil record, where a species changed into a different species - even over "billions and billions" of years.

[John H K]

What is the problem with evolutionists referring to "Mother Nature?"

I defy you to find the term "Mother Nature" in any of several tens of thousands of pee-reviewed articles in any scientific journal of evolutionary biology.

Talk about your straw-man argument.

[Khepera]

The fact is they cannot even promote their own ideas without paying homage to God in some way.

[John H K]

I defy you to find the term "Mother Nature" in any of several tens of thousands of pee-reviewed articles in any scientific journal of evolutionary biology

Before anyone else gets in a quick joke, please change "pee-reviewed" in the above to "peer-reviewed."

pee-reviewed would apply to, say, anything published by the ICR :-)

[Restorer]

If you believe that God has something to do with the real world, then you can't be an evolutionist because evolution is run by chance, not by God, by definition.

Not necessarily true. Nothing (except the Bible, by some interpretations) says that God couldn't use evolution as his method of creation.

[John H K]

http://talkorigins.org/faqs/fa q-transitional.html

I'd say the odds that you've ever actually bothered to look at ANYTHING in the fossil record is essentially nil.

[Khepera]

Except the evolutionists themselves. They say it is by chance and God had nothing to do with it. They cannot have it both ways.

[Khepera]

Your assumption is incorrect.

[Dimensio]

Except the evolutionists themselves. They say it is by chance and God had nothing to do with it.

If you are attempting to present the above as a universal statement then you are wrong.

[mlo]

Having a "purpose in the eco-system" is the same as saying a "role in the eco-system". Evolutionary features exist because they fill a niche, they serve a "purpose". Use of the word "purpose" certainly does NOT necessarily imply intent. Beyond that false argument, the other false argument is that the choice of words used in this context has any significance to the truth of evolution. They are just words, and common usage may not be totally accurate. So what?

[concerned about politics]

Evolution theories are:
" My guess is....."
"I assume that...."
"Maybe it's bacause....."
"Yoooohooooo. I have a guess!"

Funny. No proof or documantation about any of it. The Bible is 2000 years old, and the evolution minions are just getting started. I wonder how long it will take the Darwinites to catch up with reality?

[f.Christian]

Creation/God(real world)...Christianity---secular-govt.-humanism...private religion!

Originally the word liberal meant social conservatives(no govt religion--none) who advocated growth and progress---mostly technological(knowledge being absolute/unchanging)based on law--reality... UNDER GOD---the nature of GOD/man/govt. does not change. These were the Classical liberals...founding fathers-PRINCIPLES---stable/SANE scientific reality/society---industrial progress...personal-PRIVATE moral/social character-values GROWTH!

Evolution...Atheism-dehumanism---TYRANNY/govt. RELIGION---bigotry/intolerance---HYPOCRISY...

Age of the taliban/pharisees(unreal-maufactured world)...EVO-WHACKS---ZEALOTS...

Then came the post-modern age of switch-flip-spin-DEFORMITY-cancer...Atheist secular materialists through ATHEISM/evolution CHANGED-REMOVED the foundations...demolished the wall(separation of state/religion)--trampled the TRUTH-GOD...built a satanic temple/SWAMP-MALARIA/RELIGION(cult of darwin-marx-satan) over them---made these absolutes subordinate--relative and calling all the residuals---technology/science === evolution to substantiate/justify their efforts--claims...social engineering--PC--atheism...anti-God/Truth RELIGION--crusade/WAR--INTOLERANCE/TYRANNY...against God--man--society!!

[Dimensio]

The Bible is 2000 years old, and the evolution minions are just getting started.

I'm not sure what you are trying to prove with this statement.

[Andyman]

. . . we catch our fish for the sport of it and then let them go unharmed.

Could be just me, but I'd consider a big 'ol hole in my lip "harm."

[balrog666]

Sometimes it just makes you tired to read what these ninnies keep posting. I wonder why they don't just post it in the Religion Forum and be done with it.

[John H K]

Funny. No proof or documantation about any of it.

As I've stated repeatedly, never ceases to amaze me how creationists repeatedly claim to be more religious than those Godless evolutionists, yet it's the creationists that are repeated bald-faced liars. Somehow, I think you're more likely to burn in Hell for being a liar to that degree, than for daring to suggest that Genesis not be taken literally.

There's no documentation at all, of course, except those hundreds of thousands of fossils found by thousands of evolutionists all over the world spending years and years in the field.

While creationists, by and large, sit at home twiddling their thumbs.

It's interesting, creationists sort of project themselves on evolutionists; they assume that evolutionists all spend all of their days studying and re-studying "Origin of Species" and the collected life and sayings of Darwin or whatever, and never leave the house. In fact, there's actually very little study of "Origin of Species"; evolutionists are too busy running around digging up fossils in the real world, observing animals, and analyzing and discussing them.

[nmh]

I just "pee-reviewed" your reply and my opinion of you evolved into a downward spiral. You have to be a egotistical fool to believe in evolution. Then again it is no coincidence that those that lead the charge off the cliff (promoting evolution) are hardcore atheists. Every single one of them. GOd and evolution do not go together. They oppose one another with their "theories". Evidence, that is objective evidence points to God and His creation.

[ppaul]

I'd say the odds that you've ever actually bothered to look at ANYTHING in the fossil record is essentially nil.

Well, excuse me Mr. Conceited Intellectual Giant Elitist.
You just go ahead and adhere to your religious beliefs and I'll stick with mine, okay?
If you believe humans "evolved" from pond slime billions of years ago, rather than being uniquely created as human beings by the Creator - you've got a hell of a lot more faith than I have. And a bleak hereafter.

[Dimensio]

Nice post. Do you have any actual evidence against evolution or are you just going to resort to ad hominem?