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French link murders to cult film - 'Scream' blamed for outbreak of teenage violence
The Observer ^ | June 9, 2002 | Paul Webster

Posted on 06/09/2002 12:58:44 PM PDT by Bubba_Leroy

France's third teenage murder in two years linked to the influence of the Scream horror film trilogy has sharpened fears about the impact of screen and video game violence on the young. The case brings to nine the number of killings around the world specifically linked to Wes Craven's movie. Other violent films and video games have been linked to many more, including the 16 deaths in April at a school in Erfurt, Germany, when a teenager obsessed with violent computer games ran amok.

A signature of the Scream trilogy, a mask based on Edvard Munch's famous painting 'The Scream', has also figured in killings carried out by adults in Britain and the US.

The latest killing, more chilling than any Scream episode, will strengthen the case of those who argue that screen violence is directly linked to crime, a position generally rejected by the movie industry but supported last year by veteran director Robert Altman when he said violent blockbusters had shown terrorists who attacked the US 'how to do it'.

France's Culture Minister, Jean-Jacques Aillagon, has set up an inquiry team to advise whether a new category of film censorship should be introduced for horror videos, which account for more than half of video rentals by children.

'I have been quite shaken by this attack,' he said. 'It raises all sorts of questions about official responsibility for material that can unbalance young minds.'

The latest murder took place at Saint-Sébastien-sur-Loire, western France. Key pieces of evidence against a youth, identified only as Julien because he is 17, were Scream videos, a Scream mask and a kitchen knife similar to the one used by the fictional killer who carries out senseless stabbings on a US campus.

Julien watched the Scream video over and over again after returning from school to his home, where he lived with his parents and two brothers. After watching the first episode of Scream in his bedroom, he rang two girls, but they were out. Then he rang Alice, who invited him to her house, where he was given an orange juice by her father before the two teenagers - who had once been in the same class - decided to go out for a walk.

It was about an hour later that a neighbour walking his dog heard the girl screaming and found her soaked in blood, lying on the ground near a football pitch. While waiting for an ambulance, she gave her own address and Julien's name, saying that he had pulled out the Scream mask from his shoulder bag just before he started stabbing her.

The post-mortem showed she had been stabbed 17 times. The neighbour told police that her last words were: ' Faîtes moi une sourire, je sais que je vais mourir. ' ('Smile at me, I know I'm going to die.') An hour later she died in Nantes hospital.

'Julien seems to be living a virtual experience,' a policeman who assisted in the interrogation said. 'Even though he has admitted the stabbing, he does not seem to see it as a real event.'

Julien's lawyer, Elisabeth Daussy-Rioufol, said the youth, a shopkeeper's son who planned to become an architect, had conceived the attack 'like a film script' over the past year.

'At the beginning he intended to kill as many people as possible before being killed in his turn,' she said, describing Julien as 'very intelligent and the product of a pleasant, problem-free childhood. But he considered his life monotonous, and he underwent it like a ghost.

'He now feels horror and remorse for Alice's death, saying that he only wanted to see what it was like to stab someone.'

In another case during 2000, a 16-year-old boy wore a similar disguise when he attacked and severely injured his parents with a kitchen knife. The same year in a Paris suburb, five young men wore Scream masks when they raped a young woman.

Three months ago two teenage girls in eastern France tortured a classmate using a knife which the local prosecutor said 'strongly resembled the weapon in Scream, which the girls had watched before the attack'.

Psychiatrists questioning Julien said they were worried about the inability of some young people to distinguish between reality and fiction.

Their alarm has been increased by the news that the horrifying details of the murder at Saint-Sébastien have contributed to a national rush to rent Scream videos.

The debate in France mirrors growing anxieties in the UK and the US. Last year a report by the American Academy of Paediatrics found that by the age of 18 the average young person had seen 200,000 acts of violence on television alone.

Dave Grossman, an American expert on the psychology and physiology of killing, has found that repetition, desensitisation and escalation reduced the normal human unwillingness to kill. He said: 'We have raised a generation of barbarians who have learnt to associate violence with pleasure. All the time in movie theatres, when there is bloody violence, the young people laugh and cheer and keep right on eating popcorn and drinking soda.'

Apart from Scream, the US Parents Television Council associated other pop culture favourites with specific crimes. They included the Oliver Stone movie Natural Born Killers and Marilyn Manson's album Portrait of an American Family .


TOPICS: Crime/Corruption; Culture/Society; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: movies; scream; wescraven
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A picture of a cartoon camel causes kids to smoke, but a 2 hour movie filled with explicit and repeated acts of violence has no effect on them whatsoever.

Right.

1 posted on 06/09/2002 12:58:45 PM PDT by Bubba_Leroy
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To: Bubba_Leroy
the influence of the Scream horror film trilogy has sharpened fears about the impact of screen and video game violence on the young

And here I thought the French had a anything-goes attitude when it came to entertainment.

2 posted on 06/09/2002 1:11:36 PM PDT by Paul Atreides
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To: Bubba_Leroy
Personally, I'm glad to see people finally making this connection, between video violence and teenage violence.

There is a new video game out (can't think of the name,) in which the scene is a typical, large shopping mall. The "players" are armed with automatic weapons, and points are awarded by how many "shoppers" the shooter kills. This was released a few months ago, and now that school is out and kids have time on their hands, I'm waiting to see just how long it will be before some moronic teenagers decide to act it out, for real.

3 posted on 06/09/2002 1:12:12 PM PDT by EggsAckley
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And here I thought the French had a anything-goes attitude when it came to entertainment.

They traditionally have, but I think we're starting to see the French finally starting to shift toward the right.

4 posted on 06/09/2002 1:14:56 PM PDT by EggsAckley
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To: 2sheep
first amendment mental illness input-output sanction bump
5 posted on 06/09/2002 1:23:24 PM PDT by Governor StrangeReno
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Only a very disturbed person would commit murder because they saw it on scream and such a person will eventually commit murder anyway. I'm surprised anyone who calls themselves conservative would believe crap like violent movies and videogames cause violence. Thats soccer mom BS.
6 posted on 06/09/2002 1:25:43 PM PDT by weikel
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To: Bubba_Leroy
"Scream" is brought to you by THE WALT DISNEY COMPANY!!!!! YAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAYYYYY!!!!!!!!!!

Let's all sing! M-I-C, K-E-Y....

7 posted on 06/09/2002 1:43:58 PM PDT by GeneD
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To: GeneD
Who also brought you "Priest," and "Nothing Sacred." Good family entertainment--not.
8 posted on 06/09/2002 1:56:21 PM PDT by Cicero
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To: Cicero
And Kids.

Scream sucked major A$$. I got dragged to see the first one but held out against the next 15 or whatever sequels, I am proud to say.

9 posted on 06/09/2002 1:58:39 PM PDT by maxwell
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To: Bubba_Leroy
The effect of American movies on French society is indisputable. Look what happened to their foreign policy ever since the Jerry Lewis films were embraced by the French in the '50s.
10 posted on 06/09/2002 2:03:33 PM PDT by Faraday
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To: weikel
Only a very disturbed person would commit murder because they saw it on scream and such a person will eventually commit murder anyway. I'm surprised anyone who calls themselves conservative would believe crap like violent movies and videogames cause violence. Thats soccer mom BS.

First of all, I'm NOT a mom, and I couldn't care less about soccer. And it's NOT B.S. From the article:
he had pulled out the Scream mask from his shoulder bag just before he started stabbing her.

This seems to be an indication that the teenager, Julien, was INDEED influenced by the film. Sure, maybe he had an innate propensity for murder, and maybe it WOULD have shown up later, but in this case, his fascination with the film cost a young woman her life. Even if his propensity for murder DID emerge later in life, without that film, THAT particular young lady would still be alive.

I'm trying to be polite and diplomatic here, despite the fact that your comment was rather rude and caustic, stating that a true conservative could not believe that film violence can be influential to causing violence. You're painting with a mighty broad brush stroke here.

11 posted on 06/09/2002 2:07:32 PM PDT by EggsAckley
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To: Bubba_Leroy
Lets see, who was it that invented the guillotine??
12 posted on 06/09/2002 2:16:24 PM PDT by hgro
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To: EggsAckley
I still don't believe we should censor movies because some wacko copycatted what he saw in Scream. Plus maybe if he didn't see it in Scream later in life he would have found a better way to kill more people.
13 posted on 06/09/2002 2:21:04 PM PDT by weikel
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To: Bubba_Leroy
France's third teenage murder in two years linked to the influence
of the Scream horror film trilogy has sharpened fears about the impact of screen and
video game violence on the young.


LOL! If this film was inciting impressionable young French-persons to commit "American-Style"
violence, there'd be at least a thousand or more of these murders, just on regular demographics!


(Flashback time!)
Reminds me of when some of the European countries (Sweden?, U.K.? etc?) were complaining
about the "American-Styled Violence" of Stallone's "Rambo" films.

I loved it when Jay Leno said "Hey, maybe if we dressed Rambo up in a soccer uniform,
these Europeans would be a bit more comfortable with the violence!"
14 posted on 06/09/2002 2:41:11 PM PDT by VOA
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To: weikel
You see, the movie "made them do it." Before we had movies, the dime novels about gangsters and gunslingers "made them do it." In fact, if you go all the way back to Cain, the devil "made him do it." I know that you see where that kind of thinking leads, but I also realize that others don't --
    Nobody's responsible for his choices.
    We're all just programmable automatons.
    Therefore nobody can be punished for crime...
    And the state alone should make our choices for us.

Right out of the Marxist playbook.

15 posted on 06/09/2002 3:28:38 PM PDT by Bonaparte
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To: weikel
"I'm surprised anyone who calls themselves conservative would believe crap like violent movies and video games cause violence. That's soccer mom BS."

No, that's not "soccer mom BS", but the traditional conservative belief that we can and should protect our kids from that which would harm them.

I for one, do not embrace the notion that children have constitutional rights. That is, the right to expression, firearms, vote, drink, etc. They are a "Protected Class", and as such are ENTITLED to be fed, clothed, housed , and educated until they are adults, at which time they are ready to assume the full rights and responsibilities that the constitution protects.

The idea that those under 18 have "rights" to view such movies as "Basketball Diaries" I find absurd and is one reason why our schools and society can't find its moral a$$ with both hands. Children have (or should have) protection, adults have "rights". Conservatives are NOT LIBERTINES!

16 posted on 06/09/2002 3:33:21 PM PDT by elbucko
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To: Bubba_Leroy
If the movie did realy influnce these teens, then you would see tons of French teenagers doing bad acting to make tons of money.
17 posted on 06/09/2002 3:36:50 PM PDT by Hillarys Gate Cult
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To: elbucko
The idea that those under 18 have "rights" to view such movies as "Basketball Diaries" I find absurd and is one reason why our schools and society can't find its moral a$$ with both hands. Children have (or should have) protection, adults have "rights". Conservatives are NOT LIBERTINES!

The question is do you want a mom or dad to censor those items or the government? You also run the risk of having marxists use this same exact argument to censor talk radio and attack conservative books and ideas. Just look at all the activity around "hate-radio" in the media when some nutjob kills an abortion doctor or a gay man.

Those who are quick to give the government power to censor the media better watchout because their forms of media will be next.
18 posted on 06/09/2002 3:41:32 PM PDT by Libertarian_4_eva
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To: Libertarian_4_eva
"Those who are quick to give the government power to censor..."

In my post I mentioned CENSORSHIP. It is, IMHO, the right and duty of every parent to know and understand what a free market society is producing to entertain their kids. The sort of video junk that helped precipitate Dillon and Klebold, as well as psychotropic drugs for children, should be the jurisdiction of the parents.

19 posted on 06/09/2002 3:59:24 PM PDT by elbucko
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To: elbucko
"In my post I mentioned CENSORSHIP."

That should read: In my post I never mentioned CENSORSHIP

20 posted on 06/09/2002 4:03:15 PM PDT by elbucko
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