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To: Mom_Grandmother
It seems to me that the assumption that our "cival" rights apply to non-citizens is a stretch. Our civil rights are a gift for non-citizens that can be revoked in exceptional situations.

I am certainly not in favor of internment camps, but I see no reason why non-citizens who break the even a minute law should not be invited to leave our country in a hurry.

I do not see that as a loss of civil rights.

We do not owe the world or its citizens a damn thing.

2 posted on 06/07/2002 11:48:49 AM PDT by eFudd
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To: eFudd
I agree, either submit to the new rules or exit stage left and take their @ss back to their Oasis in the Middle East.
3 posted on 06/07/2002 11:53:03 AM PDT by HELLRAISER II
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To: eFudd
Not only is the assumption that our civil rights apply to non-citizens a stretch, but I find it highly ironic that these towelheads are demanding "rights" in this country that NO ONE enjoys in any of their countries of origin, rights which, if asserted over there in their backward and flea-bitten regimes, would result in a quick and brutal beating, if not death.

They left their miserable hellhole countries to come here. If they don't like the way we do things, they can go home. The ultimate solution to all of this is to stop issuing visas and give the ones who are here about 10 days to pack up and leave the country. Those who don't will be in volation of our laws, rounded up and arrested. They want to live in our country (if not take it over) and participate in our economy, but they want to bring their old, bad bloodstained habits over here and impose them on us. They can shut up and hunker down, or they can get out. Remember the Battle of Lepanto

19 posted on 06/07/2002 1:04:07 PM PDT by 3AngelaD
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To: eFudd
It seems to me that the assumption that our "civil" rights apply to non-citizens is a stretch. Our civil rights are a gift for non-citizens that can be revoked in exceptional situations.

Rights and freedoms can not be a gift. They (rights and freedoms) belong to every individual since the moment of birth. Rights may be recognized by states/government authorities, temporary restricted or constantly violated by them - depending on the nature of the state and/or specific situation.

World-wide organizations (with well known ethnic and religious base) openly declared and started a war against other countries, and this war is clearly based on the religious (and ethnic) differences. Who cares that those organizations are not (if they are not!) States? They have well-organized infrastructure, budget, underground armies, intelligence, recruiting system (name more).

Under conditions of a war, rights of certain groups may and shall be restricted. BTW, 9/11 events give much more reasons for harsh actions against arabs and other muslims living in USA than Pearl Harbor provided for repressions against Americans of Japanese origin.

We do not owe the world or its citizens a damn thing.

This is not about " owe or not owe". This is simple legal issue of rights restrictions under the war conditions.

20 posted on 06/07/2002 1:24:09 PM PDT by Alexandre
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