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Oh, I get it you are telling me that the Founders created a government to be run by amateurs then immediately staffed it with professional politicians and lawyers? Suuure they did.

Not establishing qualifications is not the same thing as ruling out professional politicians. Apparently you don't consider the implications of the things you write. Implications are not equivalent to Straw Men.

Hey, if you admit that the Founders were as professional a group of politicians as ever held office then I agree with you. You have to look to Lincoln for a president who was a non-professional politician (he served only one term in the House) and I know how much you admire him.:^)

Besides having a government of amateur politicians would in actuality mean that it would be a playground for rich men even more than it is. Since only a rich man could serve without a salary poor amateurs could never suceed.

So, how many of your typical telling points do you think you just made? I'll leave to other readers to decide whether you've made a point at all. Of course, your insinuation that Congress and the other two branches of government serve without salaries is pretty lame. You've done a much better job of showing yourself to be an imbecile than I had time to do today.

Thanks so much.

The salary initially paid Congress was trivial and insufficient to live on thus, ruling out most people without slaves, rich farms or legal practices to support them. This is without question.

BTW your last comment was even less meaningful than is your norm which is depressingly low. Must have been the lack of time. "...typical telling points...?" What was lost in the translation that would make the statement that phrase was in meaningful?

He has a done a pretty good job flip-flopping on certain issues that were once clearly democratic issues, i.e CFR,No drilling for oil in florida,etc.Not to mention his high dollar education and farm bills. We can't forget his amnesty for illegals. These are some examples of what I was referring too.

Nobody beats the Con-Artist from Arkansas.

Recognition of facts with regard to the class structure does not make one a Marxist anymore than it did Hamilton. Blythe pretense that they did not exist and had no impact on social life in manifold ways is merely dishonest.

Recognition that there are definite classes of people does not render one a Marxist. Hostility to the more successful classes, leading to calls for a class revolution and coerced egalitarian values, makes one either a Marxist or a fellow traveller, sharing basic Marxist values.

I am not sure that you go that far, and do not believe that I ever implied that you did. But you seem preoccupied with the slavery question--137 years after slavery ended. And it is difficult for me to understand why on earth you are, unless you are trying to stir up the Left and divide the Right. Certainly there is no current issue in American politics that makes your view of slavery relevant.

The fact that I did not dignify all of your previous comments by discussing them, did not mean that I was denying all your assumptions of fact. I frankly do not think that some of your assumptions of historic fact are relevant to anything other than historic issues. I do not think that anything you cited discredits in any way the America of the Founding Fathers. If anything, it shows an intolerant, holier than thou, attitude on your part, which you think entitles you to judge the public morals of better men.

Your invective reminds me of some of the hate filled emenations from people like Thaddeus Stevens, after the tragic schism in the 1860s; and most of us, North and South, want no more part of that. Reconstruction, not the War itself, was probably the single ugliest period of American History.

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My county chair hadn't heard any of this....what's going on in the 1st District? What do you mean "de-engineered?" tia

..Our system of government was designed to be run by amateurs not by professionals.

It seems to me that Elizebeth Dole has never held elective office. Is she a professional or amateur politician in your view, DD?