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Is this Government Largesse?
http://www.theorator.com/bills107/hr3833.html ^

Posted on 05/31/2002 3:41:50 PM PDT by rodeocowboy

I stumbled upon a bill that "grassfire.net" is trying to get alot of people to back, that deals with Internet Pornography. The bill is H.R. 3833. You can click on the link above to view the entire bill(a pretty short read). I want to know if y'all think that this is government largesse or in the national interest.


TOPICS: Government
KEYWORDS: biggovernment; dotkids; legislatingmorality; libertarian
After reading the bill, I think that it is another clear cut case of a Republican, who is supposed to believe in small government, legislating morality.

I also believe that it is another clear case of a Republican, who supposed to support the capitalist system, interjecting government into an area in which private companies, such as NetNanny, will lose business, thus costing more IT jobs in a weakening government.

I also believe that this is another clear cut case in which Republicans, who are supposed to believe in limited spending, opening a free web portal, that isn't really free, because the taxpayers foot the bill.

I also believe that once this happens, there will be many court cases trying to "separate church sponsored sites from taxpayer funded web services." This bill is a nightmare waiting to happen.

1 posted on 05/31/2002 3:41:50 PM PDT by rodeocowboy
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To: rodeocowboy
I also believe that it is another clear case of a Republican, who supposed to support the capitalist system, interjecting government into an area in which private companies, such as NetNanny, will lose business, thus costing more IT jobs in a weakening government.

I meant to say, "....in a weakening economy."

See what happens when you don't proof read what you write. Sorry, but this was the first article I have posted since the election debacle.

2 posted on 05/31/2002 3:45:19 PM PDT by rodeocowboy
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To: rodeocowboy
Ho hum. Most of our present-day problems can be traced to the recent trend of governments to NOT legislate morality. If employment of IT professional is such a big concern to the ideologues, then why aren't they screaming for the legalization of internet streaming media snuff films or consensual gladiator fights to the consensual death for that consensual million dollar prize? For your information, "Banned in Boston" was not a name of pre-MTV colonial-era musical group. And finally, we conservatives do not allow moral-liberals to define conservatism for us.
3 posted on 05/31/2002 3:49:37 PM PDT by Cultural Jihad
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To: rodeocowboy
I'm against the bill because I like boobies...
4 posted on 05/31/2002 3:51:24 PM PDT by Chad Fairbanks
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To: Cultural Jihad
And finally, we conservatives do not allow moral-liberals to define conservatism for us.

First off, I am obviously alot farther from you from being a liberal.

But, aside from that, most of our present day problems are from government legislating morality. Take for instance the billions of my tax dollars spent on the War on Drugs, prostitution stings, etc. Underage smoking wasn't a problem with kids until the nanny government made it taboo for the kids. Underage drinking was no big deal until the nanny government made it a "grown-up's" thing.

Anyways, I don't want to get into a flame war with anybody. I just wanted you to read the bill and give your opinion. Nothing more.

5 posted on 05/31/2002 3:58:25 PM PDT by rodeocowboy
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To: Chad Fairbanks
That was funny!
6 posted on 05/31/2002 3:59:06 PM PDT by rodeocowboy
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To: Cultural Jihad
Does the term "whited sepulchre" mean anything to you?
7 posted on 05/31/2002 3:59:56 PM PDT by Eagle Eye
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To: rodeocowboy
Obviously, the right of children to their own innocence is much more important than the supposed rights of the jaded and inured to view strangers copulating. And do learn to spell, cowboy.
8 posted on 05/31/2002 4:01:04 PM PDT by Cultural Jihad
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To: Cultural Jihad
With rights, comes responsibility. It is the resposibility of the parents to buy NetNanny. It is NOT THE RESPOSIBILITY of the taxpayer to do so.

You are the double standard alot of republicans have become. You cry for less spending and more freedoms until it doesn't suit your lifestyle. The argument you are using falls within the same category of the arguments the gun grabbers use. Pathetic.

9 posted on 05/31/2002 4:21:38 PM PDT by rodeocowboy
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To: rodeocowboy
Pretty judgemental, for someone who doesn't want to get into a flame war with anyone...

So why don't you just be honest, and admit that you are against this bill because you, too, like boobies. It's nothing to be ashamed about....

10 posted on 05/31/2002 4:26:36 PM PDT by Chad Fairbanks
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To: rodeocowboy
I see another pilgrim has lurched into the difference between conservatives and Republicans.
11 posted on 05/31/2002 5:23:40 PM PDT by gcruse
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To: Chad Fairbanks
Me too I also like the 1st amendment.
12 posted on 05/31/2002 7:58:18 PM PDT by weikel
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To: weikel
I couldn't agree more - I'm also of the opinion that, while I may not agree with someone's boobies, I'll defend their right to express them...
13 posted on 05/31/2002 8:15:45 PM PDT by Chad Fairbanks
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To: Chad Fairbanks
LOL.
14 posted on 05/31/2002 8:18:26 PM PDT by weikel
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To: weikel
How ludicrous to assert that the Founding Fathers fought for the "right" of people to produce and consume the most degrading of pornography.
15 posted on 05/31/2002 8:19:25 PM PDT by Cultural Jihad
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To: Cultural Jihad
Go sell crazy someplace else CJ before the 14th amendment( which I like I don't want the states able to make tons of crazy intrusive laws either) localities could restrict porn but the FedGov never could.
16 posted on 05/31/2002 8:21:26 PM PDT by weikel
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To: weikel
don't want the states able to make tons of crazy intrusive laws either

Then move. State sovereignty (sp?) was the bulwark of limited government.

17 posted on 05/31/2002 8:27:46 PM PDT by Pistias
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To: Pistias
No individual sovereignty is the foundation of limited government.
18 posted on 05/31/2002 8:38:44 PM PDT by weikel
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