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(Illinois) Students try to solve tricky mystery of 'Deep Throat'
Chicago Tribune ^ | May 26, 2002 | Chicago Tribune Staff

Posted on 05/26/2002 12:08:24 PM PDT by MeekOneGOP

Edited on 09/03/2002 4:50:34 AM PDT by Jim Robinson. [history]

URBANA, Ill. - Using a little logic and a lot of elbow grease, eight students at the University of Illinois believe they are closing in on a mystery that has stumped historians and pundits for three decades: the identity of "Deep Throat," a mysterious key player in the Watergate scandal that cost Richard Nixon his presidency.

Professor William Gaines and his students say they have narrowed the list of potential suspects to seven, with an inner core of four or five best bets.


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TOPICS: Crime/Corruption; Culture/Society; Front Page News; Government; News/Current Events; Politics/Elections; US: Illinois
KEYWORDS: bobwoodward; carlbernstein; deepthroat; johndean; richardnixon; students; univofsillinois; watergatescandal
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Not the Linda Lovelace "Deep Throat". Sorry.
1 posted on 05/26/2002 12:08:25 PM PDT by MeekOneGOP
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To: MeeknMing
...sure am glad that the proof reader got "tricky" right.
2 posted on 05/26/2002 12:13:16 PM PDT by VMI70
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To: VMI70
Well, now that we know a high FBI official altered the Minneapolis warning so they'd lay off the terrorists, and simultaneously got the Pheonix memo, which he ignored, I have to ask "Deep Throat, where are you now that we need you?" ;')
4 posted on 05/26/2002 12:29:44 PM PDT by bloggerjohn
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To: Rottweiler
It was definitely John Dean. The guy spent most of 1972 and early 1973 lurking around Arlington Towers (which is where the Cuban Watergate defendants lived earlier and where they were billeted by the federal courts during their trials).

Sometimes, as in January 3, 5 and 7 1973, he had a large black valise with him.

Jack Anderson said that John visited the defendants on those days - Anderson had his agent inside a closet in the apartment on the 7th floor of the Madison Building where they met with Dean to divy up "payoffs" to keep their mouths shut.

Other times H. R. Haldemann came with him. Many's the time I've walked by his junk car, him at the wheel, on my way to work.

There is no mystery about why John Dean attempts to predict who "Deep Throat" might be - it's to throw everybody off his trail.

5 posted on 05/26/2002 12:32:32 PM PDT by muawiyah
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To: MeeknMing
'Deep Throat' is a fictional character that Woodward and Bernstein created to make their book on Watergate seem more dramatic and their personal guesswork seem more 'official.'

As someone said about The Final Days, "Please tell me how you get three independent sources for what Henry Kissinger was thinking when he stepped out of the elevator."

6 posted on 05/26/2002 2:40:04 PM PDT by 537 Votes
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To: MeeknMing
No doubt they got a few insider tips here and there, but I doubt whether Deep Throat as such ever existed.

If you really look at Watergate, you will find that there are virtually no "facts" at all. No secrets to be revealed. Nothing but a third-rate burglary--which was an attempt to ferret out and counteract some Democrat dirty tricks--and an enormous witch-hunt by the liberal media and the Democrats, right at the height of the new-left fervor that bubbled up during the Countercultural Revolution.

What, Nixon considered using one FBI file, but decided not too. How horrible. He used bad language when he talked to staffers? How awful.

Clinton stole 900 FBI files, and as far as we know he still has them. And Lyndon Johnson was capable of almost any kind of corruption to get what he wanted.

7 posted on 05/26/2002 2:50:12 PM PDT by Cicero
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To: MeeknMing
Whats the big mystery? Monica Lewinsky is Deep Throat.
8 posted on 05/26/2002 3:12:38 PM PDT by GeorgeHL
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To: MeeknMing
"Look at this!" he said. "My guy got a college scholarship to play basketball."

If this is what is being "taught" to journalism students today, can you imagine what level of "reporting" we will have 20 years hence? First, let's make Woodward and Bernstein icons, who's every word you take at face value, then we shall set off to solve the "great mystery" of the century. You have to laugh at the leftists and their self-importance, it's breathtaking!

10 posted on 05/26/2002 3:46:58 PM PDT by A Citizen Reporter
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To: Rottweiler
I am absolutely certain that a good many of Woodward's "clues" were deliberate misdirections. For example, saying that Deep Throat lived close enough to Woodward to get at his morning paper and had a balcony apartment would be, for the Nixon White House, only slightly more subtle than giving his full name, address and phone number. Considering the methods used by Nixon to stop leaks, the real Deep Throat would never have gone to Woodward's building to mark up his morning paper.

From the enormous range of material provided, it is extremely probable that Deep Throat is actually more than one person, because no single person, no matter how highly placed, would have known all those details about far-flung offices. A serious question is: What was Deep Throat's payoff?? My guess is the Deep Throat (whether it was one or a bunch) wanted anonymity or at least a very low profile in the newspaper coverage; wanted his own name left out of the scandals. If that is correct, it may help to compare who was left out of Washington Post coverage but mentioned in other papers (prime candidate: John Dean's assistant, Fred Fielding, who hardly rated a mention in the Washington Post but got lots of attention in the London Times book on the scandals). I think probably two or more people played Deep Throat, and very probably didn't know about each other.

11 posted on 05/26/2002 3:50:31 PM PDT by DonQ
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To: MeeknMing
Bob Dole??!
12 posted on 05/26/2002 3:57:34 PM PDT by codebreaker
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To: MeeknMing
They will never find out who "Deep Throat" is.....because he was a Bernstien/Woodward/Post invention. They didn't have a smoking gun, so they created one.
13 posted on 05/26/2002 3:58:40 PM PDT by AuntB
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To: muawiyah;Cicero
It was all about a Democratic call-girl ring and an attempt to cover-up Dean's then fiance's involvement. Woodward and Bernstein missed this? One thing's certain, Watergate continues to be a mostly vast left-wing conspiracy. (^:

Liddy lashed out at Nixon executive, calls Dean a "serial perjurer":
BALTIMORE (AP) Watergate burglar G. Gordon Liddy sharply criticized former White House counsel John Dean on Tuesday, accusing him of lying repeatedly about his role as the mastermind of the botched break-in that led to President Nixon's resignation.

During his second day of testimony at his defamation trial, Liddy was asked whether he considered assassinating Dean. He said Dean wasn't ''worth the 25 cents it would cost to shoot him.''

Liddy also repeated his theory that Dean organized the 1972 burglary to retrieve photos of his future wife, Maureen, from a package of call-girl photos used to set up liaisons in nearby apartments for visitors to the Democratic National Committee.

Ida Maxie Wells vs. G. Gordon Liddy, Liddy's defense, day 1, Jan. 25, 2001
Ida Maxie Wells vs. G. Gordon Liddy, updates from the courthouse. The defense rests. Feb. 1, 2001
Case dismissed! Freom the source: G. Gordon Liddy after the trial. Feb. 2, 2001
G. Gordon Liddy Loses Case On Appeal, Mar. 1, 2002... biased and misleading title, it isn't over...but the left has a lot invested in their 'story'.

14 posted on 05/26/2002 4:04:07 PM PDT by Ragtime Cowgirl
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To: Ragtime Cowgirl
What Liddy has to say and what he saw is one story, and I wasn't there. On the other hand I filed a deposition with the court concerning Dean's whenabouts and whereabouts, and what he was up to.

In short, I was a witness for a different aspect of the story, and I do not recall G. Gordon Liddy being around Arlington Towers at all.

On the other hand, I danced with Dean's "to be" wife at a party thrown by some Secret Service guys and she wanted me to go into the bathroom with her for some reason - I did not go!

Other than having been sworn into federal service by Liddy, he and I haven't really been close over the years - still, we do cross paths from time to time. Would you believe I remember when he had hair!!!

15 posted on 05/26/2002 4:20:28 PM PDT by muawiyah
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To: muawiyah
I hope to GOD the truth does really come out some day about this stinking mess called Watergate.

A question I would like answered and most likely John Dean could answer it, is , why bother taping the lock to keep the door open? After all the so called burglers were already IN the building.

I've always believed G. Gordon's account. I think the whole thing was an operation created by Dean, ordered by Dean and whether he meant to do it or not, he brought down Nixon. No wonder the media still loves this digusting person.

16 posted on 05/26/2002 5:14:47 PM PDT by IVote2
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To: muawiyah
"There is no mystery about why John Dean attempts to predict who "Deep Throat" might be - it's to throw everybody off his trail."

I agree with this, isn't this the third time or so he's supposedly revealed who Deep Throat was/is?

17 posted on 05/26/2002 5:16:46 PM PDT by IVote2
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To: Ragtime Cowgirl
It was all about a Democratic call-girl ring and an attempt to cover-up Dean's then fiance's involvement. Woodward and Bernstein missed this? One thing's certain, Watergate continues to be a mostly vast left-wing conspiracy. (^:

You've got that right. However, did W & B really miss it or did they just not want to make the DNC look bad?

John Dean is a piece of garbage, whose immorality is only exceeded by his whore of a wife.

18 posted on 05/26/2002 5:30:23 PM PDT by jackbill
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To: muawiyah
, I danced with Dean's "to be" wife at a party thrown by some Secret Service guys and she wanted me to go into the bathroom with her for some reason - I did not go!

Lol! Good decision. (^: Thanks for sharing your first-hand account. Two generations have grown up believing that Watergate was accurately depicted in "All the President's Men." When a few undeciphered seconds of Nixon tapes are released, the press salivates. I hope that you and others will document your experiences and leave them with honorable people for the sake of future generations. Somehow, I think they might get lost in the National Archives.

The story of the DNC call-girl ring, and Dean's fiance's pic being included with the call-girl photos in the DNC secretary's desk, didn't originate with G Gordon. He found out after reading someone else's well-researched and sourced book.

Chuck Colson, hearing about the same call-girl theory said that it made sense to him. He claimed that Nixon was a "square" and that if Nixon knew about Dean's "swinging" lifestyle, he'd be fired.

The story will come out some day. I do my teensy part. (^:

19 posted on 05/26/2002 5:49:39 PM PDT by Ragtime Cowgirl
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However, did W & B really miss it or did they just not want to make the DNC look bad?

A conspiracy....definitely. VAST left-wing conspiracy....and Hillary was there.(^:

20 posted on 05/26/2002 5:59:00 PM PDT by Ragtime Cowgirl
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