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1 posted on 05/14/2002 9:37:14 AM PDT by gcallah
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If we station a garrison in La Palma......please let me be the first one to be called up
2 posted on 05/14/2002 9:40:44 AM PDT by vooch
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Get out the Heavy Duty Reynold's Wrap. You need a new hat.
3 posted on 05/14/2002 9:41:19 AM PDT by scooter2
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For the love of God, is this even scientifically feasable, and did the Discovery show specifically mention BL and his intentions?
4 posted on 05/14/2002 9:41:29 AM PDT by Stevieboy
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Hey, 12 miles of the inland Eastern Seaboard could use a good rinse.
5 posted on 05/14/2002 9:42:55 AM PDT by TADSLOS
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If a 10 mile by 5 mile chunk of Antarctica can break off without causing a mega tsunami then I'm guessing the eastern shore of the U.S. is safe.
6 posted on 05/14/2002 9:43:10 AM PDT by Bikers4Bush
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7 posted on 05/14/2002 9:47:40 AM PDT by mhking
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I saw the same program. If I remember, it will happen within the next 150 years. It is not a maybe. Each eruption of the volcano has the potential of setting off the landslide. Trapped water inside the volcano vaporizes during an eruption and provides horizontal pressure on the volcano cone. The last eruption in the 40's opened a 4ft wide gap at the surface. If the bad boyz have a powerful enough nuke, I imagine it could be used to trigger the mother of all landslides. But, who knows if it would have the desired effect. If it successfully triggered the landslide they are talking about, it would have a far more devasting effect than detonating it directly against the US.

How did you like the Discovery program broadcast just before this one? It was about a supervolcano sitting under Yellowstone NP. How big is it? About as big as the whole park! The last time it went off, about 600,000 years ago, it buried most of North America with a couple meters of ash. Oh yeah, it seems to go off every 600,000 to I think 800,000 years. While wiping most, if not all life on the NA continent, it would probably kill off most life on the planet due to the amount of sun light blocking ash in the atmosphere for a long time afterward. And I used to think people who went into volcano cones were crazy. I've been to YNP a few times, and camped there a couple nights.

Me? I'm just hoping to last for another 60 years! :-)

11 posted on 05/14/2002 9:57:35 AM PDT by TheDon
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bin Laden could try to set off a nuke

This thread is hereby awarded the first "Elvis Bin Laden" award of the day.


13 posted on 05/14/2002 10:01:34 AM PDT by ASA Vet
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That mega-tsunami show was incredible. I can't imagine how destructive a 500 foot wave would be. But I think the huge wave from Deep Impact that plows into New York is comparable.
15 posted on 05/14/2002 10:03:14 AM PDT by finnman69
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Hmmmm knocking off a big chunk of Las Palmas in the middle of summer would be a gauranteed way of getting rid of a whole bunch of over-sexed e-taking sun-seeking idiots. Now there's a plan!!! :-)
18 posted on 05/14/2002 10:06:13 AM PDT by Happygal
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From everyday normal villiany to comic-book style super-villiany!!!!
21 posted on 05/14/2002 10:08:42 AM PDT by Zeroisanumber
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Scientists warn of massive wave

Scientists warn of massive wave

LONDON, England -- While stressing that there is no indication it could happen soon, Atlantic coastlines in Europe, Africa and the Americas are under threat from a monster wave of Hollywood -- even Biblical -- proportions, scientists have warned.

They fear that a massive landslide following a major volcanic eruption in the Canary Islands would send a 300-foot wave across the Atlantic, causing devastation to coastal towns and cities.

British and U.S. scientists who have issued the warning predict that, in the worst-case scenario, the tidal wave would destroy the coasts of Florida and Brazil.

But the Western Sahara, Portugal, Spain, France and parts of the UK would also be hit.

They fear that the mega-wave -- know as a tsunami -- could be generated by part of a mountain twice the size of Britain's Isle of Man crashing into the sea following an eruption of the Cumbre Vieja volcano on La Palma, in the Canary Islands -- part of the Spanish island chain off West Africa.

Travelling at speeds of up to 500mph, the tsunami would be an unstoppable force and would be the biggest-ever recorded in history.

Previous research by Dr Simon Day, of the Benfield Greig Hazard Research Centre at University College London predicted that a future eruption of Cumbre Vieja was likely to cause the western flank of the mountain to slide into the sea.

The energy released by the collapse would be equal to the electricity consumption of the entire U.S. in six months.

With Dr Steven Ward, from the University of California, Dr Day has produced a new model that predicts more accurately how big the tsunami will be and where it will strike.

Immediately after the landslide, a dome of water almost 900 metres (3,000 ft) high and tens of kilometres wide will form, only to collapse and rebound.

Its first target was expected to be the West Saharan coast of Morocco, where the wave would measure a devastating 330ft from crest to trough.

Propelled by a series of crests and troughs, the tsunami would travel a distance of almost 155 miles in just 10 minutes, the model predicts.

Racing at the speed of a jet aircraft, it would reach Florida and the Caribbean in eight or nine hours.

A wall of water 164ft high -- higher than Nelson's column in London's Trafalgar Square -- would smash into the coasts of Florida and the Caribbean islands, the forecast predicts.

The northern coast of Brazil would be hit by a wave more than 130ft high.

The wave would travel four or five miles inland, flattening everything in its path.

Meanwhile, a weaker, but still hugely destructive, wave was likely to travel along the western coast of the Iberian Peninsular and France and hit Britain's Atlantic coastline.

Dr Day said: "The collapse will occur during some future eruption after days or weeks of precursory deformation and earthquakes.

"An effective earthquake monitoring system could provide advanced warning of a likely collapse and allow early emergency management organisations a valuable window of time in which to plan and respond.

"Eruptions of Cumbre Vieja occur at intervals of decades to a century orso and there may be a number of eruptions before its collapse.

"Although the year to year probability of a collapse is therefore low, the resulting tsunami would be a major disaster with indirect effects around the world.

"Cumbre Vieja needs to monitored closely for any signs of impending volcanic activity and for the deformation that would precede collapse."

Like the rest of the Canary islands, the origin of La Palma is volcanic.

La Palma is not only the steepest island in the world but has also been the most volcanically active of the Canary Isles in the past 500 years.

There have been two eruptions on the island this century alone -- in 1949 and 1971.

Other eruptions in recent history on La Palma occurred in 1470, 1585, 1646, 1677 and 1712.

Tidal waves are not common in the Atlantic, although since 1990, 10 major tsunamis in the Pacific have killed more than 4,000 people.

Scientists suspect an earthquake-triggered tsunami that killed more than 2,000 people in Papua New Guinea in 1998 was bolstered by an undersea landslide.

Hawaii's worst experience in modern times came in 1946 when the April Fool's Day tsunami, generated by an earthquake in the Aleutian Islands, sent a 25-foot-high wall of water ashore, killing 173 people, mostly in Hilo.

On May 23, 1960, a tsunami that hit Hilo killed 61 people.

One of the most famous, and most devastating, tsunamis occurred after the Krakatoa volcano blew itself to pieces in 1883 -- a wave six metres high killed 30,000 people.


35 posted on 05/14/2002 10:33:35 AM PDT by finnman69
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This has happened before in history. Its happened in the Indian Ocean and Hawaii.

The last time La Palma erupted one whole face of the island slid several meters toward the sea. This is caused by water trapped inside the lava columns inside the volcano heating to pressure and stressing the island as well as the constant undercutting of the sea.

It will happen, but it could be the next eruption or an eruption several thousand years from now.
38 posted on 05/14/2002 10:40:37 AM PDT by Arkinsaw
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The boys on the left coast are excited about the 60ft. swells off SanDiego....wait til the ride this wave...

The experts on the program presented speculative numbers - I found it interesting, but not all that credible.

41 posted on 05/14/2002 10:44:26 AM PDT by stainlessbanner
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44 posted on 05/14/2002 10:49:48 AM PDT by stainlessbanner
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.......a tidal wave washing 12 miles inland on the east coast of the US.

No biggy, after all it's the blue zone, isn't it? ;-)

52 posted on 05/14/2002 10:57:30 AM PDT by varon
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I've got some ocean front property in Arizona..

If you'll buy that I'll throw the Golden Gate in free....

53 posted on 05/14/2002 10:58:27 AM PDT by frodolives
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Use a Mega Roll of Duct Tape to secure the island of La Palma together. Just give the duct tape roll to that Christoph guy and tell him it is a massive art project.
64 posted on 05/14/2002 11:14:47 AM PDT by PJ-Comix
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Lex Luther planned to inundate California in "Superman".

James Bond saved Silicon Valley in "From a View to a Kill".

Boy, this storyline has better legs than "Romeo and Juliet".

Based on a post earlier today, a terrorist could shove a nuc down Old Faithful and cause the super volcano caldera below Yellowstone to explode!

Or???????

70 posted on 05/14/2002 11:40:27 AM PDT by Young Werther
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Alert the left coast! I'm sure they have some surfer types that would love to ride that wave. ;-)
77 posted on 05/14/2002 12:34:58 PM PDT by b4its2late
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