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UN raps US for rejecting International Court (Obvious barf alert)
Reuters ^ | May 7, 2002 | Andrew Cawthrone

Posted on 05/07/2002 7:26:34 AM PDT by zapiks44

U.N. Raps U.S. for Rejecting International Court Tue May 7, 8:15 AM ET By Andrew Cawthorne

LONDON (Reuters) - U.N. High Commissioner for Human Rights Mary Robinson Tuesday criticized Washington's abandonment of a new international court for the world's worst crimes, calling it regrettable and worrying.

Joining a chorus of international condemnation, she said however that even though the U.S. stance on the International Criminal Court set a bad precedent, the new institution should survive without backing from the world's only superpower.

"I believe it has been a remarkable success story...the International Criminal Court will go forward strongly and will make a great difference in accountability and ending impunity," Robinson told a news conference during a visit to London.

Her comments followed Monday's announcement by President Bush (news - web sites)'s government that it would pull out of the treaty setting up the court, due principally to fears it could be used against U.S. military personnel.

That disappointed major allies of the United States like Canada and the European Union (news - web sites). It also infuriated human rights organizations who accused Washington of ending a decades-old tradition of leading prosecution of war criminals since the Nuremberg trials at the end of World War Two.

"It's worrying and I'm concerned that the United States has not just let the matter rest as it was -- that they were unlikely to ratify -- but has actually taken symbolically a much more serious step of disengaging from this whole process" by repudiating a treaty it had signed in 2000, Robinson said.

"I do regret this step," she added.

Former U.S. President Bill Clinton's government had signed the treaty setting up the court so Washington could participate in talks on arrangements for the new body.

But both administrations had said they did not intend to ask the Senate to ratify the treaty on the grounds it could be used for politically motivated prosecutions of U.S. officials or military personnel.

"WORRYING IMPLICATIONS"

The move to renounce any obligation to cooperate with the court -- meaning the United States could, for example, ignore extradition requests -- "could have worrying implications" for other nations bound by treaties, Robinson said.

"The court is a huge step forward in having accountability at the international level ... to have those who commit gross violations of human rights know that they will not get away with it any more, that there is a court before which they can be brought," she added.

Adverse international reaction to the U.S. decision continued Tuesday.

"By taking the harsh and very rare step of revoking a signature which had already been put to paper, Bush's government -- in the eyes of its critics -- is adding to its reputation for practicing 'multilateralism a la carte,"' the German liberal newspaper Sueddeutsche Zeitung commented.

Chibli Mallat, a leading Lebanese human rights lawyer who last year initiated a war crimes case in Belgium against Israeli Prime Minister Ariel Sharon (news - web sites), said the U.S. decision would marginalize the new court's influence.

"This is a shameful withdrawal from a legal commitment for which the United States was a leading protagonist as a nation governed by law," he told Reuters.


TOPICS: Activism/Chapters; Extended News; Foreign Affairs; Front Page News; Government; Miscellaneous; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: icc; maryrobinson; sovereignty; un; unlist
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Didn't take long for the UN to start biatching about our protecting our national sovereignty.
1 posted on 05/07/2002 7:26:34 AM PDT by zapiks44
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To: zapiks44, UN_list


2 posted on 05/07/2002 7:28:45 AM PDT by Joe Brower
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To: zapiks44
Her comments followed Monday's announcement by President Bush (news - web sites)'s government that it would pull out of the treaty setting up the court, due principally to fears it could be used against U.S. military personnel.

How can we "pull out" of something we were never in? President Clinton "signed" the treaty but never submitted it to the senate for ratification (so the USA was never a part of this treaty).

3 posted on 05/07/2002 7:30:05 AM PDT by 2banana
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To: zapiks44
Yep. F the UN. W did good on this one...
4 posted on 05/07/2002 7:30:09 AM PDT by eureka!
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To: zapiks44
I think we should give the UN 72 hours to vacate and then bulldoze the building into the river.
5 posted on 05/07/2002 7:30:14 AM PDT by mgc1122
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To: zapiks44
They'll still accept our checks though.
6 posted on 05/07/2002 7:31:21 AM PDT by GuillermoX
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Now, if we could just get Bush to pull the U.S. out of the U.N...
7 posted on 05/07/2002 7:33:53 AM PDT by freedomcrusader
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To: zapiks44
"The court is a huge step forward in having accountability at the international level ... to have those who commit gross violations of human rights know that they will not get away with it any more, that there is a court before which they can be brought," she added.

"...and give us the control over the United States that we so crave," she was thinking.

8 posted on 05/07/2002 7:36:05 AM PDT by VoiceOfBruck
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Mary Robinson. I'm glad the Irish didn't export this woman and her family to the USA.
9 posted on 05/07/2002 7:37:54 AM PDT by Clemenza
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I've always said that it would make a nice spot for a Trump condo...
10 posted on 05/07/2002 7:38:39 AM PDT by Clemenza
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To: zapiks44
Physician, heal thyself:

Refugee sex scandal triggers U.N. reforms

Most countries in the world are not democratic. Having an organization like the UN (with large representation from despotic and oppressive regimes) acting as the overseer of civilization would be comic if it weren't so scary.

11 posted on 05/07/2002 7:41:17 AM PDT by liberte
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Amen to that. There was a damn good reason that the founders required that each of the states have a republican form of government when they wrote the Consitution. The U.N. was not formed by people any where near as 0.001% as intelligent as the founders..
12 posted on 05/07/2002 7:43:28 AM PDT by freedomcrusader
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Mary Robinson. I'm glad the Irish didn't export this woman and her family to the USA.

Yeah. We've got enough trouble fighting off the Kennedy infection!

13 posted on 05/07/2002 7:44:40 AM PDT by JMK
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To: GuillermoX
From a recent JohnHuang2 "2 Cents Worth" essay posted elsewhere:

Memo to Globalists: Put this in your pipe and smoke it: America is, and shall remain, the world's sole superpower. No other nation even comes close. America is, and shall remain, a sovereign, self-governing free republic. No despotic global tribunal shall have jurisdiction over citizens of this free republic.

Moreover, terrorists who commit crimes against the United States, will be tried by the United States, not by the U.N., the I.C.C. nor Kofi Annan. A 'global treaty' without us isn't worth the paper it's written on.

Any questions?

Can't say it any better than that.

14 posted on 05/07/2002 7:45:48 AM PDT by borkrules
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To: Clemenza
I really should link to JH2's excellent post
15 posted on 05/07/2002 7:48:07 AM PDT by borkrules
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To: freedomcrusader
Also keep in mind that the 66 countries that have ratified the treaty only represent 16% of the world's population. That's the equivalent of India or China imposing their form of "international law" on the rest of the world.

Also quite a few of the signers don't have representative governments (Mali, Sierra Leone, Gabon, Congo, Jordan, Tajikistan). A surprising large # of the countries also are very small with small populations (less than 20 million). The only largely populated countries were France, Germany, UK, and Nigeria. When the ratification of the treaty by a country like San Marino or the Marshall Islands is as significant as the ratification of the treaty by countries like Germany or the UK, then something's not right.

In short, the ICC has several flaw and infringements, and we should reject it until ALL of them are solved, not some, ALL. And if the UN and the world doesn't like it, too damn bad. We will not blindly follow what the rest of the world does. That is the purpose of national sovereignty.

16 posted on 05/07/2002 7:52:17 AM PDT by zapiks44
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Gee just imagine what they'd say if we withdraw our membership, stopped paying our dues and threw them out of the US. Think of all the bloodshed and corruption that would be avoided/stopped. (I can dream can't I?)
17 posted on 05/07/2002 8:07:05 AM PDT by joeyman
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Has there been a plebosite here in the U.S. on membership in the U.N. , I don't remember one being held . Besides let's say that some one came up to you and offered membership in in organization who participents were made up primarily of thieves , murderers , phycopaths , the feeble minded and assorted moral imbeciles . How fast would you run the other way.
18 posted on 05/07/2002 8:25:02 AM PDT by texicano
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To: mgc1122
I would'nt do that. That UN building could be prime office space in the private business sector.
19 posted on 05/07/2002 8:53:08 AM PDT by KC_Conspirator
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To: borkrules
Bump
20 posted on 05/07/2002 9:02:44 AM PDT by KC_Conspirator
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