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FBI & Probers Targeted / Say terror sheik's Staten I. aide found (Agents) homes
New York Daily News ^ | 4/23/02 | GREG B. SMITH

Posted on 04/23/2002 2:07:10 AM PDT by kattracks

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To: Lion's Cub
This one was new to me ---- Anti-Terrorism Court
41 posted on 04/23/2002 7:04:29 PM PDT by rdavis84
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To: Sal
"with his scheme to sell to opposing counsel a confidential trial plan"

Sal, I realize the guy was just an opportunist, but this is an indication of the "paralegals" that are working for law firms and the type info they have access to after Discovery. Could happen with witness lists, available documents, etc.

42 posted on 04/23/2002 7:13:43 PM PDT by rdavis84
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To: rdavis84
You guys are hitting me in my weak spot. Security firm connections have consumed a considerable amount of my time since the AKAL threads. Here is a blast from the past, but first consider Securitas owns Globe Aviation Services. Globe provided security at Boston's Logan Airport, where two of the 9-11 hijacked airplanes departed from.Securitus owns Burns Security, McVeigh's former employeer. Securitas owns Loomis Fargo & Co. , Robert Jacks employeer as of April 19,1995.

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A post from the past

Acquisition of Loomis Fargo & Co. Makes Securitas a World Leader in Cash Handling

"Securitas has now acquired the remaining 51 percent of the shares in Loomis Fargo & Co. ("Loomis"). Burns International already owned 49% of the company following the merger of Loomis Armored Inc. with Wells Fargo in 1997. With the acquisition of the other 51 percent, this makes Securitas the second largest cash handling services provider in the U.S. and a world leader in cash handling services.

Loomis, based in Houston, Texas, has operations in 220 locations in the U.S. with 2,200 employees and 2,600 vehicles. Organized into four geographic divisions, the company has clients across the country."

Please allow me to recap a few items:

1.In early 1992 McVeigh works for Burns International Security for a short while and we have a lot of information about his employment there including interviews with fellow employees.

2. In early 1993 McVeigh moves to Kingman, AZ and goes to work for State Security Service in April 1993. And according to the chief of security at State Security McVeigh ends his employment there in June or July 1993. According to Stephen Jones, McVeigh went from the security job to a job at True Value Hardware in early 1994. So the question is, what is McVeigh doing in Kingman from July 1993 to early 1994?

3. There is today a Loomis Fargo & Co office in an Arizona town 32 miles from Kingman.

4. Burns International Security and Loomis Fargo are connected(see above quote)

5.From November 1994 until April 4,1995 Robert Jacks lived within a block of McVeighs residence in Kingman with his buddy Gary Allen Land.

6.Loomis Fargo&Co have a location within blocks of the Murrah building on the same street.

7.On the morning of April 19,1995, Robert Jacks is performing duties for his employeer, Loomis Armored,Inc when he sees and reports to the FBI a suspicious Ryder truck that was in the vicinity of the Murrah building.

8. Later on the day of the bombing, Robert Jacks and Gary Land check in to a motel in Perry, OK and then check out the same day. McVeigh is jailed in Perry at the time.

9.May 2,1995 Robert Jacks and Gary Land are captured by the FBI in Carthage, MO. and released 18 hours later.

All the information has been sourced in previous threads, this is simply an attempt to summarize what we know.

Securitas owns Globe, Globe had the contract to provide security at Logan

43 posted on 04/23/2002 7:58:22 PM PDT by honway
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To: Mitchell
Thanks for the heads up!
44 posted on 04/23/2002 8:00:22 PM PDT by Alamo-Girl
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To: thinden
http://www.pinkertons.com/

Website for Pinkertons-Burns-Securitas

I think most people here are familiar with the organization Pinkertons has been affiliated with.

45 posted on 04/23/2002 8:09:46 PM PDT by honway
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To: thinden
Just spent a couple hours on google trying to find out who has the contract for the Arlington court--no luck tonight.

Akal used to have a listing of the court contracts on their site, but the listing is no longer there. Some of the things I came across suggest that the US Marshall Service may be trying to do away with contracts for court protection (which would be a wise move IMO), so it's possible they've managed to do that.

However, as of Jan. 2000, it looks like AKAL did have the D.C. courts:

[t]his is a supplemental response to your letter concerning application of section 4.165(c) of McNamara O'Hara Service Contract Act (SCA) Regulations, 29 C.F.R. Part 4, to a court security contract performed by AKAL Security (AKAL) in Washington, D.C.

Maybe we'll have better luck tomorrow.

46 posted on 04/23/2002 9:23:22 PM PDT by Lion's Cub
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To: eno_
I do wish those that rightly criticize Ruby Ridge would realize that most federal law enforcement agents are very good, very professional people who really do put their lives on the line.


Sorry but that statement ranks right up there with "Most Catholic priests are fine..." and "Most Moslems are peaceful and do not subscribe to the bloodthirsty and retrograde aspects of Islam." It may be true in the strictest numeric sense, but . . .


But? But nothing. Most Catholic priests are fine and most Muslims are fine too. You kinda illustrate my point: you can't loosely extrapolate. Well, I guess I do agree with your further point that the real test is how the institution handles the bad apples. And there the difference between the FBI and the Catholic Church is writ large. Robert Mueller is firing a lot of the old-time FBI managers and cleaning the place up. Would that the Catholic Church would do the same.
47 posted on 04/24/2002 6:36:52 AM PDT by FreeTheHostages
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To: kattracks; Fred Mertz
Kattracks, thanks for all you do with your frequent and pertinent article postings. This is not an attempt to hijack your frightening and important thread.

The security firms we're talking about create the very same type of threat as posed by the "postal worker" aide to the terrorist sheik, namely terrorist access to VERY sensitive information that can lead to blackmail and/or assassination of witnesses, agents, or anyone they consider a threat to their terrorist organizations.

48 posted on 04/24/2002 7:09:46 AM PDT by Sal
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To: honway
...Sakher A. Hammad's release after his father, Peter Hansen, a civil engineer employed by New York City government, signed the $250,000 bond.

Father = Hansen; son = Hammad. Yet another Johnny Taliban? I didn't know that FEMA had reported that the sprinklers had been disabled. Was this widely reported? (I've missed little hunks of news access so I don't know if this is the normal media news blackout or if I just missed it.) Especially interesting since this little creep had access to same.

49 posted on 04/24/2002 7:15:39 AM PDT by Sal
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To: honway
...Sakher A. Hammad's release after his father, Peter Hansen, a civil engineer employed by New York City government, signed the $250,000 bond.

Father = Hansen; son = Hammad. Yet another Johnny Taliban? I didn't know that FEMA had reported that the sprinklers had been disabled. Was this widely reported? (I've missed little hunks of news access so I don't know if this is the normal media news blackout or if I just missed it.) Especially interesting since this little creep had access to same.

50 posted on 04/24/2002 7:16:44 AM PDT by Sal
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To: kattracks
just another "they walk among us" (thanks to the INS) bump!
51 posted on 04/24/2002 7:25:47 AM PDT by VOA
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To: Lion's Cub; rdavis84; thinden; Fred Mertz; aristeides; honway
Akal used to have a listing of the court contracts on their site, but the listing is no longer there. Some of the things I came across suggest that the US Marshall Service may be trying to do away with contracts for court protection (which would be a wise move IMO), so it's possible they've managed to do that.

Thanks, Lion's Cub. This would fit with your research, rd, and it is VERY welcome news that at least some agencies are trying to rebuild security that X42 carefully dismantled (starting from day one when they undid WH security). Rd, also a very good point about paralegals who could be sprinkled throughout various law firms and having access to all kinds of discovery, etc.

52 posted on 04/24/2002 7:27:23 AM PDT by Sal
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To: FreeTheHostages
As Pee Wee Herman said, "there's always a big 'But.'"

Really? Things are changing for the better? Is Horiuchi on trial for murder? Can at least a civil suit proceed against him? What about the guy who shot that kid in the face? Will the Director reccomend decriminalising soft drugs to focus on terrorism, or do we get more lame-ass "Drugs fund terror" propaganda? Apperently you are too close to the situation. From the outside it looks just like the Catholics: We'll fire a handful of eggregious perverts, but let the gay mafia take over anyway; Or the Moslems (Religion of Peace (tm)): Some lame "condemnations" but Wahabbism still rolls on.

Cite some results people can see, otherwise the FBI should go to hell with the chickenhawks in collars and the towelheads.

53 posted on 04/24/2002 8:16:27 AM PDT by eno_
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To: kattracks
According to a thread on Saturday, the head of the mail handlers' union appeared at the death-to-Israel hatefest at the Mall in D.C. that day.
54 posted on 04/24/2002 9:09:29 AM PDT by aristeides
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To: Sal;thinden;rdavis84
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/news/655625/posts

Link to Memphis Driver's License Fraud/Smith Murder Thread

See reply #16 in above thread for more of the article about the report.

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New York Times

March 29, 2002

Towers Withstood Impact, but Fell to Fire, Report Says

By JAMES GLANZ and ERIC LIPTON

Fireproofing, sprinkler systems and the water supply for hoses were all disabled in the twin towers on Sept. 11 in the face of a blaze so intense that it drove temperatures as high as 2,000 degrees and generated heat equivalent to the energy output of a nuclear power plant, a federal report on how the towers fell has concluded.

The fire, combined with these failures, brought down the towers even after they had shown surprising and lifesaving resiliency to massive structural damage caused by the impact of two hijacked airliners, the report says.

The report's findings detail for the first time the horrific series of events that led to the collapse of two of the world's tallest buildings. They are contained in a draft of a report commissioned by the Federal Emergency Management Agency and the American Society of Civil Engineers.

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Tracking down Hammad's employeer, Denko Mechanical, Inc, would be a worthy task for the "old AKAL gang." My research has hit a brick wall. Wonder why a commercial plumbing contractor would make it so difficult to find contact information? Seems like that would be bad for business.

55 posted on 04/24/2002 9:51:19 AM PDT by honway
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To: aristeides
The press has reported the Hammad's father, Peter Hansen, as 56 years old. (of course he may have lied)

The UN Commissioner General Peter Hansen is 60 years old , according to his UN bio.

If the information on the ages is correct, I guess these are two different Peter Hansens that have both spent considerable time in Jordan and now live in NY. Small world, maybe.

56 posted on 04/24/2002 10:00:14 AM PDT by honway
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To: honway
Russian?

Selected Entity Name: DENKO MECHANICAL, INC.
Current Entity Name: DENKO MECHANICAL, INC.
Initial DOS Filing Date: 02/08/2000
County: NEW YORK
Jurisdiction:
Entity Type: DOMESTIC BUSINESS CORPORATION
Current Entity Status: ACTIVE

DOS Process (Address to which DOS will mail process if accepted on behalf of the entity)
DENKO MECHANICAL, INC.
232 E 26TH ST
STE 21
NEW YORK, NEW YORK 10010

Chairman or Chief Executive Officer
SERGEI DENKO
232 E 26TH ST
STE 21
NEW YORK, NEW YORK 10010

Registered Agent
NONE

NOTE: New York State does not issue organizational identification numbers.

57 posted on 04/24/2002 10:35:49 AM PDT by rdavis84
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To: honway
But No Phone ----

Your search is based on: Denko Mechanical Inc.  in NY
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No listings found. - Please try again.

58 posted on 04/24/2002 10:39:45 AM PDT by rdavis84
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To: honway
Service agent for Food Service equipment company
Denko Mechanical
376 Bertrand Street
Winnipeg, Manitoba
R24 0P3
Tel: (204)-233-8003
Fax: (204)-233-8006

Kind of Fits in with the Plumbing business.

59 posted on 04/24/2002 11:02:53 AM PDT by rdavis84
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To: honway
Memphis Fraud Case Is Long on Clues but Short on Answers :

In a telephone interview on Saturday, Mr. Hammad's father, Peter Hansen, said his son was a plumber, and he provided a letter he said he had obtained from his son's employer attesting to his work at the trade center. In the letter, dated Feb. 13, Sergei Denko, president of Denko Mechanical, said Mr. Hammad had been working for his company in the basement garage area of 1 World Trade Center.

"He was there for a couple of days," Mr. Denko said in an interview.

Mr. Hansen, 56, said he immigrated to the United States 15 years ago. He said he was not in frequent contact with his son, who was born in Jordan, but he said it was inconceivable that his son was involved in any terrorist activity.

60 posted on 04/24/2002 11:29:22 AM PDT by aristeides
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