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To: gfactor
A middle group was led by European "nations without a state" - Catalans, Basques, Corsicans and Scots who want to be independent nations within Europe.

I maintain that there is much more at play here than just a bunch of loony socialists.  It's one thing to support capitalism.  It's another to support your nation being absorbed into the Borg.  I view the European Union model of a super-state to be problematic.

A Republican representative form of government binds our states to the United States.  Direct elections are used to select our leaders.  The binding of the European Nations to the European Union super-state Borg, has nothing to do with being a Republic or representative form of government.  The citizens of the EU are merely absorbed.  They become a part of the collective, but they do not vote for the EU super-state officials.

I believe that a lot of people are waking up to the nature of the EU, and I don't think they like what they are seeing.

Is living under a capitalist based tyrany all that different than living under a socialist based form of tyrany?  When you lose direct control over the people who make the decisions that govern you, you live under a form of tyrany IMO.

I object to our current globalist capitalist frenzy because I recognize that corporations wield extreme power.  The corporations makie decisions that better their corporate situation with absolutely no concern or loyalty to their home nation.  This negatively impacts our nation.  When Loral gave missile tech to China, it was to better Loral's position.  To hell with the negative impact on the U.S.  This is not the only instance of that happening. It's merely the tip of the ice berg.

I would suggest that people need to think more about these issues and be a little less quick to pass European protests off as simply the work of anti-capitalists or world marxists.  There are some valid issues for concern in Europe and in our own nation.

6 posted on 03/18/2002 1:18:31 PM PST by DoughtyOne
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To: DoughtyOne
"Is living under a capitalist based tyrany all that different than living under a socialist based form of tyrany?"

A: Yes. Under capitalism you can choose with whom you do business. Under socialism, the choice is made for you. That choice is the essence of freedom.

Posting on Free Republic and not understanding the difference can be hazardous to your self esteem. Are you sure you will be happy here?

9 posted on 03/18/2002 1:23:12 PM PST by Uncle Miltie
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To: DoughtyOne
Since you've been in the question-asking mode for awhile, I thought it time you answered one:

Compared to capitalism which you equate to tyranny, what economic model do you support that yields more freedom?

15 posted on 03/18/2002 2:12:59 PM PST by Uncle Miltie
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