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Researchers confirming AIDS passed to humans from chimps in Central Africa So Much For Bill Cosby
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Posted on 01/17/2002 12:38:00 PM PST by Outraged At FLA

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To: Outraged At FLA
Along with the theory that God created AIDS because he hates fags.
21 posted on 01/17/2002 12:57:48 PM PST by drjimmy
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To: Outraged At FLA
If the disease is so rare among chimpanzees, and so hard to spread, how does it survive at all to be passed to more chimps?
22 posted on 01/17/2002 12:57:55 PM PST by aristeides
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To: Outraged At FLA
So much for the Bill Cosby theory that the US created AIDS to kill off Blacks.. Ahh well..

Did Bill Cosby say this? If so, then why is the U.S. working on a vaccine? Doesn't make sense to create a virus to wipe the mout and then create a vaccine.

23 posted on 01/17/2002 12:57:57 PM PST by The_Media_never_lie
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To: Outraged At FLA; all
So much for the Bill Cosby theory that the US created AIDS to kill off Blacks.

I've heard of the lunatic theory, but not that Bill Cosby endorsed it. Do you have a source? Anyone?

24 posted on 01/17/2002 1:01:12 PM PST by dighton
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To: Outraged At FLA
the theory on the origin of AIDS,”

In other words, they still don't know.

Hint: God will not be mocked.

25 posted on 01/17/2002 1:02:02 PM PST by concerned about politics
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To: Pericles
It would explain why Haiti and those African regions were hit first and hardest,

No. Rape, incest, child molestation is the norm over there. They spread the plague via their liberal, literally, sexual perversion. A man can grab a woman and rape her on the street. No one stops him or even notices.

27 posted on 01/17/2002 1:04:46 PM PST by concerned about politics
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To: Outraged At FLA
So much for the Bill Cosby theory that the US created AIDS to kill off Blacks.. Ahh well..

With Planned Parenthood International, there is no need for a killer virus. Wonder if Cosby supports their activities in Africa.

28 posted on 01/17/2002 1:04:56 PM PST by spindoctor
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To: spindoctor
With Planned Parenthood International, there is no need for a killer virus.

78% of abortion clinics in America are located in minority areas.

29 posted on 01/17/2002 1:10:23 PM PST by concerned about politics
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To: Thinkin' Gal;D2BAH
Moral of the story: don't share bananas with chimps!

Bawahahahahahahahahah!
Best not to share your banana with goats either.

30 posted on 01/17/2002 1:10:46 PM PST by Spunky
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To: tallhappy
I hate it when I agree with you. The headline is ridiculous, and is belied by the body of the story, which in turn is belied by the evidence.

Here's a translation of the mishmash in this article - somebody has found SIV (not HIV) in wild chimps in East Africa, when SIV is normally only found in simians in West Africa. That's it.

“It obviously confirms and extends the theory on the origin of AIDS,” said Beatrice Hahn of the University of Alabama,

This is simply not the case. There is no indication whatever that intraspecies transmission of the virus is either recent or for that matter even a fact - it's a theory, and the evidence is not complete. This study has nothing to do with intraspecies transmission of anything.

"To find this virus for the first time in the wild opens a window of opportunity,” added Hahn’s co-author, George Shaw of the Howard Hughes Medical Institute.

This is not the first time it's been found "in the wild," that's where they found it in the first place. It's the first time it's been found that far east.

Let's pray that they were misquoted - if not, Cosby has a better chance at the Nobel than these folks.

31 posted on 01/17/2002 1:11:15 PM PST by Billthedrill
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To: spindoctor; Outraged At FLA
That rumor (yes it is false) was given new strength by some of Blacks when it was revealved that a very small % of Europeans whose ancestors lived in the hardest hit parts of Europe during the Black Death seem not to develop AIDS once they get HIV.
32 posted on 01/17/2002 1:12:52 PM PST by Pericles
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To: clinton's a rapist
fyi
33 posted on 01/17/2002 1:15:23 PM PST by Plummz
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To: spindoctor; Outraged At FLA
British Genes Resist AIDS

Six hundred and fifty years ago, the Black Death was stalking Europe. It arrived on ships from Asia, carried by fleas that had infected rats on board the ships. Before it burned itself out, the epidemic had killed about a third of the European population.

Today, another plague - AIDS - has ravaged the world. Although it seems very different from the Black Death, there is one eerie similarity. Both the Black Death bacteria, Yersinia pestis, and HIV, the virus that causes AIDS, home in on macrophages, which are scavenger white blood cells of the immune system.

Now, in a provocative report, scientists at the National Cancer Institute in Frederick, Md., say they have found that a genetic mutation that protects against the AIDS virus, by preventing the virus from entering macrophages, emerged in Europe around the time of the Black Death. And, they have found, this AIDS resistance gene is astonishingly common in people whose ancestors lived in areas of Europe that were ravaged by the Black Death.

The HIV resistance gene destroys a protein, called CCR5, that pokes out of the surface of macrophages, the large white blood cells that can engulf and kill viruses and bacteria.

Scientists have discovered that when HIV infects a person, the virus goes straight to the white blood cells and in particular the macrophages, latches onto CCR5 and another protein, CD4, to hoist itself inside. It lives there for about a decade, throwing off billions of genetic variants. Eventually it makes a variant that can get into another type of white blood cell, the T cells. Then the infected person's immune system starts to decline, and the terrible symptoms of AIDS appear.

People who inherit two copies of the HIV resistance gene can only be infected with HIV if they happen to come in contact with a virus from someone in the late stages of infection, when the virus can go straight for the T cells, said Dr. Stephen J. O'Brien, who is chief of the Laboratory of Genomic Diversity at the cancer institute.

O'Brien and others have found that 10 percent of Caucasians have a copy of the gene, which slows the progress of HIV infections by several years, and one percent have two copies, which provides nearly complete immunity to HIV.

The HIV resistance gene is most common among British and other northern European people, and declines in frequency further south. Thus, it is present in almost 14 percent of Swedes but appears in only about 5 percent of Italians and is absent in Saudi Arabia. It is absent in Africans, American Indians and Asians. The gene emerged in the Caucasian population long after Caucasians split from Asians, which was about 50,000 to 100,000 years ago, O'Brien said. And so, although the bubonic plague began in Asia, the HIV resistance gene is not there.

By GINA KOLATA N.Y. Times, May 26, 1998

34 posted on 01/17/2002 1:21:03 PM PST by Pericles
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To: Outraged At FLA
?? Dr. Don C. Wiley said,"_________________________________."??
35 posted on 01/17/2002 1:21:44 PM PST by maestro
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To: Brian Mosely
You sure about that quote? I coulda sworn that was from one of Carlin's HBO specials (late 1980s, IIRC). Maybe he swiped Zappa's material?
36 posted on 01/17/2002 1:25:17 PM PST by Charles Martel
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To: Outraged At FLA
Bill Cosby created jello pudding to kill off everybody...../sarcasm/
37 posted on 01/17/2002 1:27:13 PM PST by ATOMIC_PUNK
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To: Plummz
"I've heard of the lunatic theory, but not that Bill Cosby endorsed it. Do you have a source? Anyone?"

I remember when it was a big sotry, and Limbaugh was talking about it, but as for sources, I have only one that I just quickly searched on the Net (and it is not that great):

"Bill Cosby saying that AIDS was "started by human beings to get after certain people they don't like." "
http://www.grandconspiracy.com/synopsis.html

But, you could probably find more just by doing a "cosby aids" search. I remember in fact seeing it on the news here in NY (I think Fox5) when it came out.

I am in the middle of cooking dinner or I could probably search you out a better source. :P

38 posted on 01/17/2002 1:28:55 PM PST by Outraged At FLA
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To: concerned about politics
If Cosby supports abortion on demand, then he's an advocate for the silent genocide of the Black people.
39 posted on 01/17/2002 1:31:16 PM PST by spindoctor
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To: r9etb
Are you Kidding? Haven't you seen the papers about how badly female chimps throw their hindquarters at male humans they find attractive?

Do you seriously suppose that for the past 5 million years in Africa, all human males consistently turned this down? How about the last FIFTY years? Five, anyone?

40 posted on 01/17/2002 1:38:50 PM PST by crystalk
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