Free Republic
Browse · Search
News/Activism
Topics · Post Article

Interesting. This is the first real case I've seen of someone with a name being held without basic rights. Barring the obvious left wing slant(Hey, it's Ann Arbor, the Cambridge, MA of the Midwest, of course it's slanted left!), what do people think? Justified, or un-justified? Thanks for your time.
1 posted on 01/14/2002 3:20:49 PM PST by ThinkPlease
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | View Replies ]


To: ThinkPlease
Well, I think that being in this country illegally is no longer going to be tolerated.

Last month, my friend and I flew to Frankfort from Chicago. Sitting next to my friend was a 19 year old Albania man, with a Slovinian passport. He had flown to Chicago to visit his sister without a Visa. He said he had done it twice before with no trouble. Well this time big trouble ensued. He was held over night by INS and then put aboard the plane in handcuffs (which were removed for the flight. At Frankfort he was taken offr the plane by military or police (handcuffed) before other passengers were allowed off.

This is just the way it has to be now.

2 posted on 01/14/2002 3:30:50 PM PST by w1andsodidwe
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies ]

To: ThinkPlease
"...like any other person who's violated his immigration status. He should be eligible for a bond and released to his family."

Or preferably deported. If that's all they've got on him, it's enough.

3 posted on 01/14/2002 3:31:01 PM PST by onedoug
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies ]

To: ThinkPlease
Haddad had earlier lost a bond appeal when a judge ruled that Haddad was a threat to the community because authorities found a hunting rifle in his apartment.

the NRA and the ACLU will be right on the case.

4 posted on 01/14/2002 3:34:23 PM PST by gfactor
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies ]

To: ThinkPlease
Criminals lose their right to freedom upon committing the crime that makes them criminal.

An immigration violation was apparently the crime he was held for; and now, something's probably come up that makes it necessary to keep his whereabouts unknown == perhaps, even, for his own protection.

5 posted on 01/14/2002 3:34:54 PM PST by thinktwice
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies ]

To: ThinkPlease
what do people think? Justified, or un-justified?

Justified.
I think a constitutional amendment is absolutely necessary to clarify this.
The notion that Constitutional "Rights" accrue to terrorists illegally in this country is so beyond the pale that it would have been thought ridiculous to our founding fathers to address an absurd non-problem.
Well, that is precisely where we are.
And children born of foreign nationals illegaly or temporarily in this country are likewise illegal.

I really believe that this one issue will control the next presidential or congressional elections. The mood is getting uglier and firmer on this issue with the overwhelming number of Americans.

6 posted on 01/14/2002 3:39:40 PM PST by Publius6961
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies ]

To: ThinkPlease
I hate terrorists and want all terrorists and their sypathizers to die a terrible and violent death. I don't think that LEOs have any obligation to make any of the detainees names public.

That said, I am uncomfortable with the idea of scarfing someone up to an "undisclosed" location without being able to talk to anyone for weeks. You also have to be disturbed by the fact that a judges are considering someone a "threat to the community" for possesing a hunting rifle.

Somebody change my mind on this.

7 posted on 01/14/2002 3:39:45 PM PST by AAABEST
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies ]

To: ThinkPlease
" "We don't know where he is," his wife, Salma Al-Rushaid, had said Sunday night. "They won't tell anyone where he is. I can't understand all this secrecy." "

Looks like the patsy's (us) the terrorists were used to dealing with have all gone away.

8 posted on 01/14/2002 3:42:25 PM PST by Republic of Texas
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies ]

To: ThinkPlease
They picked him up and charged him with violating a temporary visa. That's all I need to know. If he is in violation of a temp. visa, give him the boot. NOW!!!!!!!!!!!!! I really don't care how long they hold him before that either. He was probably funding terrorists to boot. He may need 10 years in prison before he is deported, maybe 20 years.
9 posted on 01/14/2002 3:44:32 PM PST by The Real Deal
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies ]

To: ThinkPlease
"what do people think? Justified, or un-justified?"

Let's see. What do we have here?

1. Haddad is evidently not an American citizen.

2. Moreover, he was obviously found in violation of his immigration/visa status.

3. Finally, he appears to be credibly linked to a suspected terrorist organization.

Now, of all times, is not a good time to be a non-citizen in America -- if you are found in violation of an immigration statute. And, especially, if you co-founded an organization suspected of raising money for terrorism.

The Constitution guarantees many things to Americans. The guarantees to non-citizens are largely reliant on our good faith -- which is somewhat strained right now.

10 posted on 01/14/2002 3:48:41 PM PST by okie01
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies ]

To: ThinkPlease
This is only one side of the story.

A federal judge is issuing the orders as things progress here. These judges are not necerssarily known as lapdogs for the federal law enforcement agencies.

"Global Relief Foundation" is a terrorist front.

This guy broke the law.

Would anyone be whining if this guy was a mafia don? I claim terrorists are worse. At least the mafia tries to kill only other crooks.

14 posted on 01/14/2002 4:07:51 PM PST by fleur-de-lis
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies ]

To: ThinkPlease
"If they really believe Pastor Rabih Haddad has done something illegal, has violated the Anti-Terrorism Act or the U.S.A. Patriot Act, then they should charge him as such and not assassinate his character without giving any proof," he said.

As far as character assination is concerned, this story wouldn't have apeared in the press if the attorney wasn't making such a big stink to the press. I can't say I blame the attorney, but he is the one drumming up the publicity.

21 posted on 01/14/2002 4:34:26 PM PST by Log
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies ]

To: ThinkPlease
a judge ruled that Haddad was a threat to the community because authorities found a hunting rifle in his apartment

Goof grief, Charlie Brown. An assault squirrel gun?

22 posted on 01/14/2002 4:37:55 PM PST by RightWhale
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies ]

To: ThinkPlease
Gee, maybe it had something to do with his name on the Al Qaida rolodex with the notation in the margin about him being good for a couple million on short notice.
24 posted on 01/14/2002 4:42:43 PM PST by McGavin999
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies ]

To: ThinkPlease
They've let so many go with a slap on the hand, I've got a feeling they found something recently.

Maybe they found something connecting him with the terrorists in some of the new information (videos, papers, etc.) they found in Afghanistan.

25 posted on 01/14/2002 4:47:53 PM PST by FR_addict
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies ]

To: ThinkPlease
He's Arab the Government took him......it is justified for me.
37 posted on 01/14/2002 10:03:41 PM PST by VaBthang4
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies ]

Free Republic
Browse · Search
News/Activism
Topics · Post Article


FreeRepublic, LLC, PO BOX 9771, FRESNO, CA 93794
FreeRepublic.com is powered by software copyright 2000-2008 John Robinson