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To: The Documentary Lady
Whom are you calling a SOCIALIST, dear ?

What I am saying, is that some of us know and / or are members of various ELITE organizations which some FREEPERS keep maligning, without any concrete knowledge of ; just their own paranoid delusions. I have also pointed out, many times, that just because something is in print, does NOT make it a fact / true !

The Illuminatai, for instance, was driven out of Germany , centuries ago, and does NOT exists ; except in FICTION books , and the ravings in pamphlets of jerks ( like Tex Marrs ) who hope to make money from naive, gullible, stupid people. The FreeMasons do NOT worship the devil, have their own religion, nor rule the world. The Jews do NOT run / want to take over the world . They are having a difficult enough time trying to keep Israel ! The members of Bohemian Grove are just a bunch of influential ( and not so influential ! ) , wealthy men, who spend time with each other at what is rather like an all boys' camp, and put on " hairy leg " shows. Yale's Skull & Bones is nothing more than a social club, and not unlike Princeton's " eating societies. It isn't even all that much like a fraturnity ! And that is just for starters.

The truth is often stranger and far, far, FAR less nefarious than the tinfoil hatters would have one believe ! It is people, who have absolutely NO exposure to the organizations and / or the peoeple whow belong to them, who are inclined to believe whatever junk is presenteed to them. This is because they have no cocmprehension what that world is like. It's just scapegoating, to allay ( but in this case, it is to INCREASE ) fears , or have someone, ANYONE , to throw blame upon.

When crops failed, Dark Ages Christians blamed Jews. If someone's milk curdled, menstruating women were blamed . A sheep died ? Blame the old, ugly, lonely woman at the edge of the village who yelled at you for stealing her apaples lasts week, of being a witch who caused the death.

People don't change; only technology changes. Those who feel helpless, powerless, and frightened , look for someone to blame ; someone to bring down.

152 posted on 11/11/2001 10:42:16 PM PST by nopardons
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To: nopardons
Those who feel helpless, powerless, and frightened , look for someone to blame ; someone to bring down.

Didn't Senator McCarthy mention something about a conspiracy?

Here's what NoPardons had to say about him in a past thread...

You are incorrect. McCarthy was correct and a brave man.

159 posted on 11/12/2001 12:41:32 AM PST by Verax
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To: nopardons
Yes though folks on the CFR are powerless individuals, surely knowing they plan could ever happen? LOL!

Evil men have never worked to usurp power or let alone succeeded at it have they?

160 posted on 11/12/2001 12:43:29 AM PST by t-shirt
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To: nopardons
When crops failed, Dark Ages Christians blamed Jews

Where do you get such bigoted anti-Christian views that some how all Christian are evil and hate and blame Jews for everything that goes wrong?

Who in the hell do you think protected and hid "the Jews" in Holland, in France and in Serbia and many other countries during World War II?
The Christians!

And when the Muslims were invading Europe it was the Christians---that you think all hated/hate Jews--- that protected them from extermination!

If you made such bigoted statements about Jews on FR you'd have to worry about being banned, but on Christians I guess you feel it's ok to say such things?

166 posted on 11/12/2001 3:55:49 AM PST by t-shirt
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To: nopardons
--maybe also there just might be other "freepers" who "know people" or who have "seen things" in meatworld that might tend to make them just a little more, umm, how to put this most delicately so as to not to induce the swooning vapors, umm, maybe *some* folks experiences with "government" or "corporate busi-ness" might make them just a tad more suspicious of events and people in high places over the years.....

Just maybe, that is, just maybe.

Maybe there are some other "freepers" who have knowledge of events that maybe are not quite, hmm, have to be delicate again, maybe some 'things" aren't exactly as reported and "commonly believed- why,everyone knows that!" and taken as gospel by some of the more debunker types who are extremely quick on the tinfoil hat slur draw.

Just maybe, that is. maybe it's possible? Maybe?

Maybe some "freepers" have noticed that if it's in the mainstream media, by various well known authors and talking heads types, that maybe over the years a lot of them are known to have, hmm, stretched the truth on events and realities? maybe? Or seemed to have whoops-"forgotten" some things, or seem to not really like to question on some topics? Certainly seems like that is an acceptable topic here, and promoted as "something to do", it's "OK", but then there's the "buts.."

On the one hand, it is "politically correct here" to slam most of the media, to perhaps name names of connected ones in office, to see some glaingly obvious past and present 'wrongness' "chinagate, whitewater, vince foster, hitlery, condidit", etc, many more, and etc, but, on the other hand, when it comes to just a few select-and very important- topics and perhaps-names that fall outside of the approved list, then all of a sudden this same media-gestalt and what is said by them, or actual events, or actual past happenings, "clues" some might call these datoids, well, then it's "obviously" just such and such, it's just 'the truth", nothing else could it be.... I mean, really..".LOL, oh my! That is just so tinfoil, hahahaha, lol! "We", just don't accept that, hehehe, "we" will inform you of what to think and believe and not believe, and what is "proper" here"... These select other topics as presented by the clique of "accepted-properness" are now mysteriously 100% true, exactly as reported on in this same media from before, never a varication. Oh, my, my , my!

Only *some* topics may be accepted as a given-true for investigative or discussion purposes, to search out past largesse, to help end decades of abuse, but others? NO, mommy says you mustn't touch.... Well! Just isn't that speeeesh-ull!"

Some topics are just not P.C if one wishes to remain "proper" and keep to their "place" inside the clique., "place" is so very important, don't you know..

har-umph, ruffle papers, harumph, tap pencil, ruffle papers, say the word "whacko" on cue, change subject, next caller please.....

Just maybe, that is....

172 posted on 11/12/2001 5:02:02 AM PST by zog
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