Jubilant Calls on Sept. 11 Led to F.B.I. Arrests

The New York Times ^ | 10/28/2001 | NEIL A. LEWIS and DAVID JOHNSTON

[Senator Pardek]

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[The Vast Right Wing]

Why is this being published? Won't the terrorist/scum think twice about doing this next time? I had the same though when reports came out that some of the credit-cards the terrorists used were still being used. Why would we make that info public? Why not publish a manual on what our tactics and methodology is to help our terrorist/scum friends.

[Red Jones]

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[Dacus943]

"But many civil liberties advocates have said they are worried that the large number of arrests may be improper"

Screw 'em. If they were part of the Jubilant Callers, keep them locked up till we can determine if they were part of 9/11. If they are found out to be mere celebrants, kick them out of the USA - with a warning NEVER to Return!!

[McGavin999]

Ah yes, but that doesn't matter to the journalists. They think the public "right to know" gives them a sacred duty to betray the American people and help our enemies.

[DSH]

Why is this being published?

In light of your concerns, perhaps a better question would be: "Why is this information being made public by those unnamed 'law enforcement officials?'"

[DSH]

They think the public "right to know" gives them a sacred duty to betray the American people and help our enemies.

Then what of the law enforcement types who apparently revealed this information to the press to begin with? Are they not deserving of your scorn?

[Anamensis]

If they are found out to be mere celebrants, kick them out of the USA ...

...from a helicopter, over the Atlantic. During winter. From very high up. With weights attached.

[celtic gal]

Not only do I agree with you that this is something that could be helpful to the enemy but I also think the media in general is talking way too much. For instance, why do they think we need to know how the special forces train, what the equipment is and so on. They think they are making the American public feel secure, I suppose but in my view, they are feeding infor to the Taliban and other unfriendlies. I wish they would just shut up!

[mombonn]

But many civil liberties advocates have said they are worried that the large number of arrests may be improper.

So were the larage number of DEATHS on American soil, Mr. Cole.

That's not how this country was run until Sept. 11."

Yup, exactly right. I'd sooner see 977 people inconvenienced, and paid reparations IF NECESSARY, than see another 5000 AMERICANS killed in the name of PC.

[aristeides]

If the gleeful phone calls after Sept. 11th resulted in a bunch of arrests, is it any wonder if there haven't been such calls over the anthrax?

[Enlightiator]

BTTT. These celebrating callers should be held for as long as it takes to determine if they were involved in the attack. I suggest we wait at least 5 or 10 years before releasing them, just in case further evidence comes in. Then after that, deport them.

[aristeides]

One official said Mr. bin Laden now used associates as messengers, who make cellphone or satellite calls after they have left him. This official said previous reports that Mr. bin Laden had called his wife in Syria shortly before the Sept. 11 attacks to advise her to return to Afghanistan were incomplete. In fact, the official said, Mr. bin Laden had someone else call his wife with that message. The call was made away from Mr. bin Laden's hideaway.

I was puzzled when I saw the report that bin Laden had phoned his mother -- I think it was his mother, not his wife, as this article says -- because I had also seen a report that bin Laden hasn't been on the phone to anybody for a year or so. Here's the explanation.

[Doe Eyes]

I agree. Those who report the truth are the enemy. Not the un-named sources.

[aristeides]

No harm in revealing this if bin Laden's people are already on to the danger of making such calls, as they undoubtedly would be after mass arrests. We could see if they are on to the danger if they have stopped making such phone calls.

Only problem then is that the Islamofascists' failure to make such calls over the anthrax would then be of zero significance in supporting the conclusion that they are not involved in the anthrax, and apparently U.S. intelligence agencies are using this silence to argue that the Islamofascists are not the guilty parties in connection with the anthrax.

[blam]

"The most that law enforcement officials said about the fruits of the detentions arising from the telephone intercepts was that they believed they had netted Al Qaeda sympathizers who might have been in the very early stages of terrorist plots."

I agree. Keep'em locked up forever.

[garbanzo]

Well the intelligence community might have other evidence from the Al Qaeda group that is related - but not directly revealed here which would point the finger away from a direct connection in this case. I'm not saying that the government is necessarily on the right track wrt the anthrax attacks - but no one in government seems to take a direct foreign connection too seriously. Perhaps they do have intercepts from domestic groups that they aren't leaking yet which is leading them in that direction.

[prognostigaator]

Mr. Cole added: "It begins to feel like those countries where they lock people up and don't tell anyone about it. That's not how this country was run until Sept. 11."

[McGavin999]

Yes they are. I loved Rummies comment about what might happen when those Rangers come home.