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To: JoeSchem
This seems to have become my new hobby. Those things you think about Islam are not true. Islam is a very pacifistic religion with very strict rules on whom to kill and when. Even in a holy war the killing of innocents is strictly forbidden, the killing of women and children is only allowed IF they have taken up arms and even then the followers of Islam are strongly encouraged to subdue them.

What we have is a few raving psychopaths and inherrently evil me who are twisting the religion to their purpose and gaining followers. This is not a practice that is unique to Islam I'm sure you know. This crowd has, obviously, taken it to a new level the likes of which we've never seen in any other perverted religion (note, I'm refering to their perversion OF Islam, by no means do I accuse Islam itself of being perverse).

Also a note on the concept of moderates in Islam. There are plenty, but it's doubtful we'll see any of them touring the world holding speaches. The Koran advices against seeking power or glory, all power and glory come from Allah, if you have been chosen it will simply fall upon you. Those flying across the ocean to have meetings with worlds leaders and hold speaches are clearly seaking power and glory, and are therefore obviously not true adherents.

29 posted on 09/14/2001 11:34:01 AM PDT by discostu
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To: discostu
bold...off??

"I think if we are outside this country, we can say oh, Allah, destroy America, but once we are here, our mission in this country is to change it. There is no way for Muslims to be violent in America, no way. We have other means to do it. You can be violent anywhere else but in America."

In other words, whether by violent means from outside our borders or by nonviolent means from within our borders, the aim of Muslims is to destroy America. This message, which presumably Alamoudi delivered to Muslims in other countries as well as here, did not prevent a State Department official from saying this week that Alamoudi has had "overwhelmingly positive evaluations from our missions abroad."

30 posted on 09/14/2001 11:45:18 AM PDT by f.Christian
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To: discostu
About those moderates who are not out in the world making speeches...

It is also highly doubtful that we'll see them doing diddly squat about those "raving psychopaths" you believe are causing all the problems.
That makes them a part of the problem.
Trying to justify murder and destruction, of this type and on this scale, is absurd.

36 posted on 09/14/2001 12:36:14 PM PDT by norton
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