Vatican allows Scrolls to change to Bible

The Times (U.K.) ^ | 09/11/2001 | RICHARD OWEN

[Governor StrangeReno]

'The Hobbit' featuring J.Christ?

[sinkspur]

There appears to be an evolving historical scholarship regarding the Scriptures, as taught by the Catholic Church and most enlightened biblical theologians.

The Catholic bashers and literalists will be here soon in full force.

[teresat]

Michael Baigent also co-authored a book stating that Jesus really did not die and that he moved to Rennes Le Chataue? France with Mary Magdalen and that their bloodline lives on. Sensational crap that sells a book to some antichristian liberal rat.

[B Knotts]

When they say that the New Jerusalem Bible is the official Roman Catholic Bible, they mean in the U.K., I assume. Is that right?

I know in the U.S., it's the NAB, and some other translation in Canada.

[Cicero]

Tolkien translated the Book of Job, I believe. That was for the original Jerusalem Bible, which was a fine piece of work. In contrast, the New Jerusalem Bible, like most recent translations, is a piece of politically-correct trash.

[sinkspur]

No. The Jerusalem Bible is the official translation and is different from the NEW Jerusalem Bible.

I prefer the New English Bible myself, though the New American Bible is the preferred English translation.

[Illbay]

The Vatican has been accused of keeping them secret for fear that they would undermine Christianity.

Er, what am I missing here? I was not aware that "the scrolls" had been spirited away. In fact, large portions of them--with best-case translations--are available on CD-ROM, etc.

Couldn't be another Internet legend--COULD IT!?!?!

[lavrenti]

This is hilarious. I just happen to have a copy of them right here on my little ole desk.

[lavrenti]

Maybe we can start a petition to get some Gnostic stuff in, too.

You know, fairness and all that. One can dance to Thunder:Perfect Mind.

[FormerLib]

Actually, I know someone involved in the project. Apparently, the longest book of the Bible contained within the scrolls in the Book of Isiah. Of the thousands and thousands of words contained in the Book of Isiah, the Scrolls suggest 13 changes be made. Not one of them changes the meaning of a single sentence.

The big news of the Dead Sea Scrolls is that the translations that we already have are more accurate than anyone previously believed. It will be the revisionists who'll be taking their lumps on this one so expect a lot of hype in the opposite direction. Their master just loves lies, you know!

[FormerLib]

Oh yes, I read that one! Holy Blood, Holy Grail was the most laughable assembly of sophistry piled upon sophistry (please note that I'm being very, very polite here) that I've ever seen.

If the Masons were half of what Baigent claimed they were, they'd have killed him off by now.

[kaylar]

I'm not saying that I necessarily believe this is the case, but having read The Dead Sea Scrolls Deception, the author claims that the parts that have been released and published as 'the dead sea scrolls' are only a small and relatively unimportant part. The author claims that the Vatican is destroying huge parts of the scrolls because they supposedly show that the earliest Christians, those in Jerusalem who continued to pray in the synagogue and who followed Jesus' brothers as leaders of their community, hated St Paul and regarded his views as heretical, blasphemous, and satanic. IOW, Pauline Christianity is based on beliefs and doctrines which Jesus' own family despised. Such anyway is the authors' contention.

[ET(end tyranny)]

One thing that 'could' undermine Christianity as we know it, would be the verse where when asked who to go to after his death, Jesus tells his followers to go to James the Just.

And the Apostles refered to Paul as the 'Spouter of Lies'.

But I don't expect the church to allow THAT in! lol

[FormerLib]

>>>IOW, Pauline Christianity is based on beliefs and doctrines which Jesus' own family despised. Such anyway is the authors' contention.<<<

Considering the author's long track record for publishing his own imaginative wanderings and virulently anti-Christian fictions as fact, you might as well contact the DNC for the 'facts' on the Florida Presidental Election of 2000!

[FormerLib]

>>>But I don't expect the church to allow THAT in!<<<

No, the Church won't allow much fiction into the mix. LOLouder!

[RnMomof7]

A bump for the Word of God!

[ET(end tyranny)]

Have you read the Dead Sea Scrolls?

[DensaMensa]

>Michael Baigent also co-authored a book stating that Jesus really did not die and that he moved to Rennes Le Chataue? France with Mary Magdalen and that their bloodline lives on.
Sensational crap that sells a book to some antichristian liberal rat.

Right on!  Baigent, Lee and Lincoln wrote Holy Blood Holy Grail.  The first 2/3 of the book was actually an excellent history of those times in Europe, but the closing 1/3, which contained their ridiculous conclusions, was so far off base as so illogical and unrelated to the first 2/3 as to be an embarrassment to the reader.  It was as though written by someone else.

I journeyed to Renne Le Chateau after reading the book.  Fascinating.

[redhead]

"Hershel Shanks, editor of the Biblical Archaeology Review in Washington and author of Understanding the Dead Sea Scrolls, said that “unbiased Catholic experts” were now in the forefront of scroll scholarship..."

Let's see, now...BAR is pretty anti-Catholic, and one of the reasons why I cancelled my subscription some time ago. And I'd be willing to bet that those "unbiased Catholic experts" are the very same "Catholics" who have been participating in the Jesus Seminar, of notorious memory. Somehow, I don't think this little exercise is going to make the waves these guys were hoping it would. The whole thing probably boils down to something like this: HO, as in "HO!" HUM, as in "HUM!"