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Russian advance blamed on Ukrainian troops rotation blunder
FT ^ | APRIL 24 2024 | Fabrice Deprez

Posted on 04/27/2024 9:06:03 AM PDT by MinorityRepublican

The Ukrainian army has come under rare criticism from military analysts for allegedly bungling up a troops rotation that allowed Russia to capture 5km of land, highlighting the strains Kyiv’s forces are under as they await the arrival of fresh US aid.

Deep State, a Ukrainian analytical group with ties to the defence ministry, on Wednesday said the Russian advance late last week in the southern part of the village of Ocheretyne had been caused by a rotation that left the area unprotected.

The criticism comes a day after the US Senate approved a $61bn aid package for Kyiv which was delayed for months, forcing Ukrainian troops to ration their ammunition on the battlefield. The first arms shipments are expected in the coming weeks, with Russia vowing to intensify its attacks in the meantime and the Ukrainian leadership also acknowledging the difficult days ahead.

“The leadership of the 115th Mechanized Brigade is responsible for the collapse of the defence in the entire area, which led to significant casualties,” Deep State wrote in a report. That brigade was supposed to move in and relieve the more experienced 47th Brigade, but it failed to move in time, leaving the area unprotected.

A spokesperson for the 115th Brigade denied the allegations. “All I can say is that it’s not true, the unit did not abandon its position,” Vadym Chornyy said.

(Excerpt) Read more at ft.com ...


TOPICS: Ukraine
KEYWORDS: globohomo; neoconcannonfodder; neocons; oops; takethatputin; ukraine; war; zeeperssaddened
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1 posted on 04/27/2024 9:06:03 AM PDT by MinorityRepublican
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To: MinorityRepublican

Ooops, it was a one-off. Not indicative of overall strengths at all.

This is the kind of thing that happens when stretched everywhere.


2 posted on 04/27/2024 9:08:37 AM PDT by glorgau
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To: MinorityRepublican

As Picket explained to someone investigating the reasons for the Confederate loss at Gettysburg, you know the Yankees also had something to do with this.


3 posted on 04/27/2024 9:09:33 AM PDT by AndyJackson
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To: MinorityRepublican
Deep State, a Ukrainian analytical group...

I'm sure it's "Ukranian" with no ties to the corrupt officials in Washington...

4 posted on 04/27/2024 9:10:37 AM PDT by politicket
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To: MinorityRepublican
So sad.   The marching band left the field early because we couldn't get them new uniforms quickly enough.

This proxy war is the true crime of the century.

5 posted on 04/27/2024 9:11:14 AM PDT by higgmeister (In the Shadow of The Big Chicken! )
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To: MinorityRepublican

The recent money sent to this toilet was to pay for arms the US secretly sent without approval to the toilet


6 posted on 04/27/2024 9:17:46 AM PDT by stockpirate (A group of baboons is referred to as a "Congress" of baboons.)
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To: MinorityRepublican

I hate when that happens; rotating the wrong way. Like when you try to zig when you’re trying to zag. Or Zel…


7 posted on 04/27/2024 9:24:10 AM PDT by Sirius Lee (They intend to kill us. Plan to avoid this.)
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To: politicket
Chief Financial Officers of the Ukraine...

8 posted on 04/27/2024 9:27:29 AM PDT by Waverunner
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To: MinorityRepublican

The NeoCons’ children brigade must go and fill the gap ASAP.


9 posted on 04/27/2024 9:28:02 AM PDT by Trumpisourlastchance
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To: higgmeister
This proxy war is the true crime of the century.

So far. The century is young...

10 posted on 04/27/2024 9:39:41 AM PDT by null and void (Everyone on all sides a conflict will be happy to lie to you, except our side, of course!)
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To: MinorityRepublican

This is what Ukraine can’t fix. It doesn’t have enough troops.

So, the USA and Europe have sent money and material. Who wants to be first to waste their soldiers’ lives over this idiotic war?


11 posted on 04/27/2024 9:40:31 AM PDT by SaxxonWoods (Are you ready for Black Lives MAGA? It's coming.)
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To: SaxxonWoods

Need more weapons to send to the cartels in Mexico
They had to pull back the Abrams tanks because cheap Ruskie drones were easily taking them out.


12 posted on 04/27/2024 9:49:21 AM PDT by TStro (God created everyone equal. Samuel Colt made them polite)
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To: MinorityRepublican
The Ukrainian army has come under rare criticism from military analysts

Given what a disaster almost everything Ukraine has done has been, that's more proof of the propaganda these analysts have been putting out.

They are only criticizing the UA in this case because the troops willingly abandoned their posts and analysts want to cover up that fact.

13 posted on 04/27/2024 9:58:10 AM PDT by Kazan
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To: MinorityRepublican

Troop rotations become a bit complicated when 3000 POUND Glide Bombs are falling nearby. But then ‘they’re just Ukrainians’. Right Zeepers?


14 posted on 04/27/2024 10:15:20 AM PDT by BobL (A society built on MERIT cannot survive on DEI (ref. South Africa, and now USA))
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To: MinorityRepublican

How many more such “rotation blunders” have to happen before they call it what it is.


15 posted on 04/27/2024 10:19:47 AM PDT by Darksheare (Those who support liberal "Republicans" summarily support every action by same. )
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To: MinorityRepublican

Do they need a high school hockey coach to organize line changes for them?


16 posted on 04/27/2024 10:41:09 AM PDT by KarlInOhio (Democrats' version of MAGA: Making America the Gulag Archipelago. Now with "Formal Deprogramming")
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To: MinorityRepublican

The Russians have taken several other villages as well.

The Ukrainians are simply being pushed.

Pushed: https://newsmap.pl/2022-russian-invasion-of-ukraine-interactive-map/ It’s a one way road with Ukraine losing, losing, losing, little by little.

Long term, even our 61 billion won’t change the outcome SINCE it’s not money that is the real issue. It’s personnel shortages for Ukraine.

Ukraine will simply lose more land, have more dead, more debt (which they will never pay back of course), more destruction to their economy and infrastructure as this war rages on, ***with no prospect for them, of any sort of benefit, by this wars continuation.***

This war was caused by the West (NATO expansion) and it is perpetuated by the West. Mr Z is the only real puppet, if we want to use that term as some here did early on describing anyone that tried to explain what will happen. For us, ending this war now, is bad timing (US elections). National politics drive foreign affairs and security policy.

This war has destroyed Ukraine. Forget what you read about regards Ukraine losing more ground and suffering more dead (even though we try not to focus on that). Forget about the economic destruction of Ukraine, their currecny has become worthless, their GDP imploded by more than 37%, and national debt has skyrocketed.

Currency: https://g.co/kgs/dtc28SL (look at 5 year view)
GDP: https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2022-09-08/ukraine-economy-devastated-with-37-slump-in-second-quarter (So bad, that like Ukrainian casualties, Ukraine isn’t reporting on this anymore...)
Debt: https://www.ceicdata.com/en/indicator/ukraine/national-government-debt

The death for this nation is demographic: a mass exedus of people where Ukraine is left with 1/3 of its population displaced and most never to return. A birth rate so abysmally low that it is breaking records (somewhere around 1.44) and is unsustainable even for one generation (35 years). Dead and crippled (~ 455,000) + 1/3 the population fleeing + a birth rate implosion = demographic disaster. This country is cooked. Not just militarily and economically, but as a society, a culture.

Displaced: https://reliefweb.int/map/poland/ukraine-situation-refugees-ukraine-across-europe-21-june-2022
Birth rate: https://www.intellinews.com/ukraine-s-birth-rate-plummets-to-300-year-low-as-country-s-population-collapses-321317/

We took Ukraine from riches to rags. To think that they had EU membership in their reach...

But... there are some folks that like this basic structural framework. They think things are heading in the right direction: https://www.facebook.com/RevolutionIreland/videos/senator-lindsey-graham-who-has-been-up-to-his-tits-in-ukraine-since-2016httpsrig/1218472818909921/ (to the last person/Ukrainian)


17 posted on 04/27/2024 10:48:11 AM PDT by Red6
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To: TStro
But do you think we have learned our lesson? Nope.

The MBT as we and our allies currently field is obsolete.

18 posted on 04/27/2024 10:50:13 AM PDT by Red6
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To: Waverunner

One only has to look at our corrupt “ leadership” and the inept, vegetable head EU leaders to see how this war ends. From our woke, trans Pentagon to the severely unmanned “ army “ of England, France and Germany…..a huge Joke.

Senior retired U.S. military officers I talked to yesterday at Ft Moore’s live fire event really opened my eyes….Germany’s usable tank force is numbered in the tens and twenties, Englands “ army “ is lucky to be able to deploy 6,000 front line ( combat arms, at best,) France’s condition was met by laughter…..surprisingly enough, they all mentioned Polands Army is the ONLY combat ready force available, unfortunately, it was mentioned MAYBE a dozen frontline combat arms brigades, maybe.

The joke is on the US taxpayers, if they knew the condition of the EU NATO member’s “ army”, they would be utterly shocked……fact is Vlad holds all the cards….and everyone in NATO knows this.


19 posted on 04/27/2024 11:01:06 AM PDT by delta7
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But... but... but... the EU keeps releasing press statements on their future mighty re-armament. /s


20 posted on 04/27/2024 11:20:31 AM PDT by Reverend Wright ( Everything touched by progressives, dies !)
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