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What we know about the shooting of an Uber driver in Ohio and the scam surrounding it
AP ^ | April 19, 2024 | Ben Finley

Posted on 04/21/2024 9:04:44 PM PDT by xxqqzz

It was a common scam that ended with an uncommon outcome, tragically in an Ohio driveway.

William J. Brock fatally shot an Uber driver because he wrongly assumed she was part of a scheme to extract $12,000 in supposed bond money for a relative, authorities said this week. Lo-Letha Hall was a victim of the same con, summoned by the grifters to Brock’s house to retrieve a purported package for delivery.

Brock later told investigators he believed Hall arrived to get the money the scammers wanted.

He is now facing murder charges, to which he’s pleaded not guilty. Hall’s family is grieving. And Uber is helping investigators to try to catch whoever was behind the attempted swindle.

(Excerpt) Read more at apnews.com ...


TOPICS: Crime/Corruption; US: Ohio
KEYWORDS: banglist; murder; ohio; scam; uber
The shooter apparently thought the Uber driver sent to pick up the money was part of the scam and was pointing a gun at her trying to get information.

I saw a video by a lawyer saying that the scammer probably couldn't be charged with felony murder, because under Ohio law it needs to be a violent felony or with threat of violence, such as robbery.

Maybe the Uber driver's relatives can sue Uber.

It is a problem when these scammers operating abroad are not prosecuted, so eventually things like this will happen.

1 posted on 04/21/2024 9:04:44 PM PDT by xxqqzz
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To: xxqqzz

My God, that is horrible!


2 posted on 04/21/2024 9:17:49 PM PDT by ProtectOurFreedom (“When exposing a crime is treated like a crime, you are being ruled by criminals” – Edward SnowdenA)
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Seeing the video, I’m not seeing how the guy could have reasonably thought this old lady who could barely walk was such a threat to justify shooting her, even if he truly believed she was a thief trying to steal money.


3 posted on 04/21/2024 9:28:57 PM PDT by Republican Wildcat
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The dude is 81 years old, too. If I was in his shoes I’d be inclined to give all my belongings away to family members and cop a plea just to get three meals and a place to sleep for the rest of my days.


4 posted on 04/21/2024 10:48:13 PM PDT by Alberta's Child (If something in government doesn’t make sense, you can be sure it makes dollars.)
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NEVER tell a taxi/UBER driver anything about yourself, your families, your business, your purposes, etc.


5 posted on 04/21/2024 11:03:04 PM PDT by linMcHlp
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If the scammers are from India, forget it. The cops are paid off. Scambaiters have provided the police with real names, addresses and recordings of the scammers and they do nothing. Even when they do a raid, the scammers are warned ahead of time and are down for no more than a day.

They almost got my mom with a refund scam but she remembered my warning about these guys and got suspicious when they told her to install remote access software.


6 posted on 04/21/2024 11:21:01 PM PDT by ArcadeQuarters (You can't remove RINOs by voting for them!)
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The scammer was threatening to kill him and said someone would be over to get the money. So it seems reasonable he would view her as a threat. Plus people, particularly that age, tend to view blacks people as criminals.

That shooter might not have been too bright and/or didn’t have good common sense, plus his mental capacity could be diminished.


7 posted on 04/21/2024 11:28:06 PM PDT by xxqqzz
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The old man should have stayed inside amd called the police.


8 posted on 04/21/2024 11:53:14 PM PDT by hoosierham (Freedom isnt free)
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The shooter knew it was a scam. He should have hung up at the beginning, or if he wanted to play detective, let the driver go after getting her license plate number.


9 posted on 04/22/2024 6:02:11 AM PDT by Chicory
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So, robbery = violent
Execution = not violent
Ok, I get it. (no I don’t) Execution is murder.


10 posted on 04/22/2024 6:09:05 AM PDT by Fireone (Who killed Obama's chef?)
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Re my reply 5, above:
NEVER tell a taxi/UBER driver anything about yourself, your families, your business, your purposes, etc.

Because you should not assume that the driver is lawful and legit.

May 7, 2019, Dylan Lindsey entered the ASL Liquor and Market store in Downey, California and shot, and killed, the clerk, Cerritos resident, Gurpreet Singh.

May 10, 2019, Downey, CA Police Dept. detectives staked out an address in Maywood, CA, that was associated with Dylan Lindsey.

At approximately 2:00 PM local time, Alison Hart, Dylan Lindsey's on-and-off girlfriend, pulled up to the Maywood address, driving a gray Toyota Prius. She appeared to be alone, and waited briefly, then departed . . . followed by the DPD detectives, Paul Hernandez and William Kautz, in an un-marked vehicle.

That resulted in a Los Angeles County police chase: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UoFu_eHlgio

One of the comments, referring to the Prius and its driver:

JereMystic7S (4 years ago)

She's definitely Hispanic. The front windshield looks like it might have an Uber/Lyft LAX placard on it. She might have basically been a hostage.

In order to learn more about the case, go to: https://da.lacounty.gov/reports/ois

Search for: "Alison Hart"

Result in the list: "December 20, 2023: Nonfatal Officer-Involved Shooting of Alison Hart and Adolfo Cabrera-Martinez and Non-Hit Dylan Lindsey"

PDF file: "JSID-OIS-12-20-23-Hart-Cabrera-Martinez-Lindsey.pdf"

"Hart was later arrested and charged in Los Angeles Superior Court case number VA150691 with accessory after the fact for the murder of the liquor store clerk and evading police. Hart was convicted of accessory after the fact and placed on diversion by the court for the evading charge, ultimately resulting in a dismissal of the [evasion] charge." - pg 8 of the PDF file


11 posted on 04/22/2024 10:28:55 PM PDT by linMcHlp
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