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To: Chad C. Mulligan
You're either incredibly naïve or willfully ignorant about the CIA:

https://frontierweekly.com/articles/vol-54/54-40/54-40-US%20staged%20a%20Coup%20in%20Ukraine.html

Michael McFaul—US Ambassador to Russia, 2012–2014—wrote an op-ed in WaPo in 2004 where he asked, “Did Americans meddle in the internal affairs of Ukraine?” Then he answered it, “Yes.”

Why did McFaul write the article? Because in 2004, Soros and other NGOs fomented the Orange Revolution in Ukraine. Basically, the election was won by a pro-Russia guy. So people protested and demanded a new election. Then, a month later, the pro-US guy won the new election with 52% of the votes. Democracy, America-style.

BTW, that guy—Yanukovych—who lost the election in 2004 … ran again in 2010 and won fair and square. ‘That’s why we had Euromaidan’.

If one goes back in history, one will see that the CIA worked with Neo-Nazis(!!) and ultra-nationalists in Ukraine for decades, starting right after World War II. Declassified CIA documents describe Project Aerodynamic in the 1950s and ’60s that recruited Ukrainian nationalists—including Nazis and war criminals such as Mykola Lebed who was accused of killing tens of thousands of Poles and Jews—to work against the USSR. So, now hopefully one can clearly see the patterns and that Ukraine is really of special importance to the U.S. But why? Well, has anyone heard of Brzezinski, the geopolitical expert who influenced US foreign policy for 40 years? He came up with the idea of Mujahideen in Afghanistan to fight the USSR, created Al Qaeda, and then repeated the same strategy of using Islamic terrorists in the Balkans, the Caucasus, Libya and Syria. Brzezinski explained in his 1997 book, The Grand Chessboard that “Ukraine is a geopolitical pivot. Without Ukraine, Russia ceases to be a Eurasian empire.” He also said that Ukraine must be brought into NATO by 2010.

105 posted on 04/15/2024 9:05:13 PM PDT by Kazan
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To: Kazan
Still just a vague allegation repeated in a tiny anti-American webzine run by some unknown character out of India. Quoting a "WaPo Op Ed", which somehow predicted that ten years into the future the CIA would foment the Maidan revolt. And I suppose pretends to explain how the CIA got 800,000 people into the streets of Kyiv to protest Yanukovich's betrayal of his promise to join the EU. Using some magical mind-ray? Drugs in the water supply?

Your need to blame the CIA has either warped your thinking until you believe the CIA is to blame if the toilet paper roll is on backwards, ("The greatest trick the Devil ever played on humanity was to convince it that the CIA did everything he was accused of"), or you have a vested interest in promoting a myth. Your history on FR argues for the latter.

OF COURSE Americans supported the nascent democracy in Ukraine. Who wouldn't? It was done right out in the open, with news cameras rolling. And once the Ukrainian people had a fair shot at choosing their government, YOUR GUYS LOST.

Which justifies Moscow's fabricating a myth that some shadowy American equivalent of the GRU must have snuck in the back door and turned the tables. And justified in their minds and yours mounting a full-scale military invasion aimed at crushing a government that finally DID represent the will of the popular majority. Not naive, not ignorant, just grounded in reality.

106 posted on 04/16/2024 12:52:24 AM PDT by Chad C. Mulligan
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