Posted on 04/09/2024 4:58:37 AM PDT by canuck_conservative
Ukraine's Main Directorate of Intelligence (HUR) has released video of its claimed sabotage operation against a Russian missile corvette on Sunday in the Baltic Sea exclave of Kaliningrad, which the intelligence service said had "disabled" the vessel.
The footage purportedly showed a fire being set somewhere inside the Serpukhov Buyan-M class corvette, which is part of the Baltic Fleet and can be armed with either Kalibr or Oniks cruise missiles. The video also showed what were claimed to be blueprints of the vessel, presumably used by HUR operatives to plan the attack.
The claimed HUR attack took place while the ship was in the Baltic Fleet's home base of Baltiysk in the Kaliningrad region, located on the Vistula Spit, which juts out into the Baltic Sea and is bisected by the Russian-Polish border.
The extent of any damage done to the Serpukhov is not yet clear. Andrii Ryzhenko, a retired Ukrainian naval captain and now a strategic expert at the defense and logistics consultant company Sonata, told Newsweek that emerging reports suggest "serious damage" to the vessel.
The internal fire, he added, could have "completely destroyed" the corvette's communication systems and other vital equipment.
If the attack is confirmed, it would represent another embarrassing security lapse by the Russian navy. It has been repeatedly outmaneuvered by Ukrainian forces, in the Black Sea in particular, even though Kyiv has no conventional navy of note. Instead, Ukraine has used asymmetric warfare and long-range strikes to inflict repeated losses on the once-feared Black Sea Fleet.
Ukraine claims to have sunk or disabled around 1/3 of the Black Sea Fleet's pre-war vessels in just over two years of full-scale combat. Among the losses have been the Mosvka guided missile cruiser—which served as the fleet's flagship, the Rostov-on-Donau attack submarine, and multiple Ropucha-class landing ships...
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How many Ukrainian warships has Russia sunk? Zero.
“The video also showed what were claimed to be blueprints of the vessel, presumably used by HUR operatives to plan the attack.”
Well, yeah, the Ukrainians pretty much built the Russian navy when they were part of the Soviet Union. Of course they have the blueprints.
another NATO attack zeep hoser
Have you finally decided to join the fight?
What Ukrainian warships?
The Brits are running these attacks on the Russian navy with drones, Storm
Shadows, and spec ops, the latter having sent hundreds or more uke marines to
fruitless deaths.
Their own Brit navy seems to have trouble leaving the dock.
Kaliningrad is a pretty significant escalation.
How many did Ukraine have? Zero.
I have no idea if this was sabotage. Nor does anyone but Russia. It’s on the other side of Poland from Ukraine in what used to be a pretty fortified foothold of Russia on the wrong side of the line. Pretty isolated; think West Berlin, but larger. Has sea front.
Very tired of ham handed Uke propaganda. The only thing worse is absolutely obnoxious Russian propaganda and its homosexual chest pounding.
“The Brits are running these attacks on the Russian navy with drones, Storm Shadows, and spec ops, the latter having sent hundreds or more uke marines to fruitless deaths.”
We’re flying recon missions very regularly right down the middle of the Black Sea with Globalhawk drones (can be seen on Flightradar24). I believe we’re contributing target data for these attacks.
No wonder I was unable to find any alphabet news outlets reporting this claim in the US & UK, and it explains why you never provided any, because there were none to provide.
I had said: Russia will not back down
canuck_conservative responded: Exactly, that's what we've been saying all along!
First Ukraine, then Russia attacks Moldova, then the Baltic countries, then Poland, then ... etc.
The historical pattern is clear, and easily visible to anyone who wants to see it ... that's why it's important to stop Putin now, while Russia is weakened
Yes, I know what you all keep saying. What you are saying is that you fear that Russia under Putin is trying to reconstitute the USSR. Nothing could be further from the truth. But even if it were the truth, it could never be accomplished. Also, you know that I was saying Russia will not stop its conflict with Ukraine, until they agree to remaining neutral. The terrorist attack throws complication into the negotiation process as well.
I think what you mean to say is that it is easy to imagine whatever you want to.
On the one hand you say that Ukraine is defeating Russia & that Russia is weak, while on the other hand you insist Russia is strong and is capable of capturing the entire European continent. Make up you mind which is true, you can't logically argue both sides of the coin as they diametrically oppose each other.
While we saw Russia waltzing in a overtaking Ukraine is rather quick fashion. We were wrong then & you are wrong now. However, we are both wrong & NATO has made the difference. Not in the fact that they changed the final outcome, but rather in the fact of prolonging the meat grinder event.
Had we not interfered in the geopolitical dynamics, I think we would be seeing something quite different today. Had Zelenskyy continued with the negotiations started shortly after the invasion commenced, I think there would be peace there. In addition, a lot of lives on both sides would not have been needlessly sacrificed. Lastly, we might see a Ukraine that is whole except for the Crimea. That would have been a much better outcome than what will now be possible.
If you look at it from an eye focused on honesty you will see that NATO expansion into Ukraine presents a real threat to Russia's national security, just as Russia's threat to place nuclear weapons in Cuba, back in the early 60s was a threat to the western hemisphere. There is not one iota of difference between the two scenarios.
The US under the insistence of Victoria Nuland, decided more than a decade ago now, that they could poke the bear in the eye, and that US hegemony would rule the outcome of the weakened Russia as a result of the USSR collapse. But instead of doing it outright, they used a color-revolution as cover to make it appear that the people of Ukraine started a grassroots revolution to oust a Putin puppet demanding their freedom. All optics to make Russia look like the bad guy.
But you super-intellects can't even see that a color-revolution was then carried out here in the US in 2020 to remove Donald John Trump and stomp out the MAGA movement. You ignore the invasion of the US apparently because you are delusional enough to think that the US is still the sole super-power in the world. That is just not the case. In fact, the reckless use of our hegemony that comes with being the sole superpower was squandered. That hegemony was then turned inward against the American citizens. But you clowns are like Sgt. Schultz who continuously saw nothing, hoping it would all go away. All any of you can see is Russia invaded Ukraine. What you refuse to see is that Russia was provoked into attacking Ukraine, which they did albeit reluctantly.
Had the intention really been to take Ukraine & then the remainder of Europe it would have started much differently, and would have looked more like what we envisioned would occur in Ukraine.
None of you geopolitical wunderbar analysts can see anything beyond what this criminal riddled administration places at the ends of your noses that they want you to see..
You are so captivated by the BS that no one can help you break free of it. You keep trying desperately to use history to justify your beliefs, but that is exactly what they want you to do.
Take the blinders off & realize that there is a war of good vs evil occurring in the world and that you have sided with evil, for you continue to push for the continuation of this instead of seeking a peaceful resolution that ends the insanity. Had we gone this route from the start, the outcome would have been much more palatable with better results, but now Russia has the dominate position just as we kept saying they would have.
On the obverse side, you all are clinging to hopium provided with BS propaganda, because you can't see that you are supporting evil. You actually believe you are supporting good.
This administration in the US doesn't know good at all. All they know & desire is power, and that power will run roughshod over you too. Power corrupts and absolute power corrupts absolutely. That is what this administration seeks you darn fools, absolute power.
The evidence is abundant for those willing to see, the truth, instead of the lies. For the sake of humanity, wake up you fools.
Ukraine is not a NATO nation member state, so why defending s non member state?
Ukraine and NATO never attacked Russia, the only way Ukraine joining NATO would be a "threat" to Russia is if Russia was actually planning to conquer Ukraine ... then NATO would be in the way, wouldn't it?
By placing nuclear weapons at Russia, which I clearly explained with the example of the USSR's attempt to place them in Cuba in the early 60s.
Oh wait ... is that why Russia is so "threatened" by NATO?
No, that is just your ignorant overwrought imagination & fear being carried away into your fantasy land you call your brain. Which functions incorrectly continuously.
NATO is preventing Russia from conquering Ukraine? Good. Who doesn't love an illegal invasion failing? LOL
No, all they are doing is prolonging the slaughter of Ukrainian people and to a lesser extent Russian people.
The fact that you laugh, just exposes your ignorance along with your evil.
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Blah blah blah. You are still full of crap. The Soviets stationing long-range nuclear missiles in Cuba is NOT the same as a free country like Ukraine choosing to join a defensive alliance to protect itself from a country that has menaced Europe for decades. You are the one on the side of evil here - you call for appeasement of a regime that colliudes with brutal dictatorships and state sponsors of terrorism like Iran, North Korea, Syria, and China - all countries that want to harm the US. That makes you a terrorist as well for your own support for Putin.
Your Kremlin-parroting talking points and poor use of English leads me to come to only one conclusion about who you are and whom you serve. So FOAD.
You can't dictate how a country should react to a threat they perceive.
Ukraine would still be a free nation, had they acted responsibly. They started the ball rolling with the assistance of the CIA, but seeing is a two-wat street, so don't give us this nonsense that we must see that Russia is the bac actor here. when I see clear evidence of this nation's leader is a corrupt tyrant wanna be that you fools dismiss, because you are paranoid Nancee's who speak out of both sides of your mouth's with diametrically opposing opinions on Russia's capabilities.
Ukraine became a lost cause the moment they succumbed to evil to the New World Order they openly stated their commitment too.
But it surprises my not that none of you Bozo's are capable see the real threat to the world, I even stated that you dimple-minded fool are incapable of seeing reality.
The real threat to the world is not Russia. Under Trump the world was a far more peaceful one, so what changed brainiacs> Biden stole an election and has generated nothing but chaos around the entire globe to erupt.
I make no predictions, but I suspect you fools will have your eyes opened sooner than later, and all at the courtesy of this usurper administration that you are following into the denizen's of hell itself.
Shut up. Vatnik. We’re all tired of your idotic propaganda. Ukraine is a sovereign country, which Russia invaded and continues to try to destroy. You fail or refuse to understand that very basic truth, so I’ll not waste another minute trying to explain it to you. You are siding with Hitler, which makes you a Nazi as well. FOAD.
Well, Frenchie, from somebody who doesn’t really care about the Ukraine War’s outcome (as long as ZERO additional American taxpayer money goes to it) expending resources attacking something that can’t hurt you isn’t the smartest tactic. Ships in the BALTIC cannot attack Ukraine but ships in the Black sea certainly can. It would be smarter, IMHO, to continue devoting available resources to attacking Russia’s Black Sea assets. Just sayin’.
As one who has spent many years of his youth in the military, I do like to follow the evolving tactics and strategies being employed in this war.
We are a sovereign nation as well, and the threats we face have world-wide changing consequences that overshadows the fate of Ukraine on a much greater degree of importance. But your utter stupidity refuses to see the big picture at stake, it's not Ukraine idiot, it's this nation. The fact you do not see that once this nation is gone, so goes the world. So you ignorant fool, what do you think you are saving by throwing resources at the Ukraine conflict? You really fail to see the actual threat, because you number among the ignorant peoples of the world who are only able to see what evil wants you to see, as they deceive you into believing you are fighting for freedom.
You are not only a gullible useful idiot fool, you are the fool for evil thanks to your utter ignorance & stupidity.
You are such a dim-witted person that you fail to see beyond the propaganda you are being fed by evil, yet you believe yourself to be an intelligent person, even though the only thing you have to hang on to is the hopium of lies, because you lack any real critical thinking skills, not to mention basic common sense.
Don't be silly, NATO is a defensive organization
Tell that to the former Yugoslavia. Unable to obtain assent from the UN Security Council, NATO just went and let the bombs fly for three months.
Ukraine and NATO never attacked Russia,
The former Yugoslavia never attacked NATO.
Holding NATO to be a defensive organization is a farce.
Excellent point. 👍
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