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Jason Miller to Newsmax: Ukraine to NATO an 'Act of War'
Newsmax ^ | April 5, 2024 | Mark Swanson

Posted on 04/06/2024 8:47:18 AM PDT by Navy Patriot

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To: Chad C. Mulligan; who_would_fardels_bear

There are your links a bad. It looks like it happened!


21 posted on 04/06/2024 1:09:34 PM PDT by wildcard_redneck (He who sacrifices freedom for security deserves neither.)
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To: wildcard_redneck

France is the number two weapons exporter of the planet.
Russia comes in third position.
France has the tech, the know-how, the organisation, the precision, and is a nuclear power.

If Russia attacks France or try to level Paris... France has 4 nuclear submarines fully loaded with the world’s greatest nuclear missiles, abled to level every single Russian city down to sand at worst, or powder at best.

Macron will have to ask the Kremlin beforehand if they prefer powder or sand though... That’s what gentlemen do.

In Russia they have the bluff. Lots of gesticulation of eradicating the West, France and America every week..., France brushes that kid-talk off so easily... :)


22 posted on 04/06/2024 1:37:52 PM PDT by USA-FRANCE
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To: USA-FRANCE
France has already been invaded by Moscow and now you want to do it again. Next thing we know you'll be trying to tell us that Charles to actually liberated France and not the U.S. Army.


23 posted on 04/06/2024 1:50:16 PM PDT by wildcard_redneck (He who sacrifices freedom for security deserves neither.)
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To: USA-FRANCE
Re: "USA-Ukraine Agreement"

I am under the impression that Ukraine gained independence from the USSR in 1991 by promising to:

(1) Return all nuclear weapons to Russia.
(2) Never join NATO.

Also, Crimea sought independence from Ukraine in 1991, but settled for more autonomy in exchange for peace.

Demographic data for Crimea is always in dispute, but I think everyone agrees that at least 50% of Crimeans spoke Russian as their first language in 1991.

Putin's war against Ukraine is morally wrong, but a lot of Russians (more than 50%) do live in the three eastern provinces of Ukraine.

On the other hand, it is incomprehensible to me that the USA and NATO have seriously discussed going to war against Putin and his nuclear weapons.

Before the war started, Ukraine had the lowest GDP per capita in Europe, a corrupt government, and a standard of living that was barely above Lebanon, which is mostly governed by the Hezbollah terror organization.

In a dangerous world, the USA needs to choose its friends just as carefully as it chooses its enemies.

24 posted on 04/06/2024 2:24:05 PM PDT by zeestephen (Trump "Lost" By 43,000 Votes - Spread Across Three States - GA, WI, AZ)
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To: wildcard_redneck

Ahh... now that’s better!
When my pro-deep-state-Kremlin Freepers start pumping out memes instead of “intelligent” arguments.. I know I have emptied their last reserves of intelligible arguments. :)


25 posted on 04/06/2024 2:25:40 PM PDT by USA-FRANCE
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To: zeestephen

“I am under the impression that Ukraine gained independence from the USSR in 1991 by promising to:
(1) Return all nuclear weapons to Russia.
(2) Never join NATO.”

Answer:
Actually it was in 1994, via the Budapest Memorandum.
Ukraine, Russia, USA, UK signed the Budapest Memorandum, letting Ukraine give up its nuclear weapons (1900 missiles) in exchange for guarantees of territorial integrity and security by Russia.

Ukraine got this in return:

- Russia Respecting Ukraine’s independence and sovereignty in the existing borders (in accordance with the principles of the CSCE Final Act).[7] (includes Crimea)

but..

Russia blatantly violated that agreement, in 2014 and 2022.
https://theconversation.com/ukraine-war-what-is-the-budapest-memorandum-and-why-has-russias-invasion-torn-it-up-178184


26 posted on 04/06/2024 2:53:26 PM PDT by USA-FRANCE
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To: USA-FRANCE

Just admit it, France has turned itself into America’s bitch since WW1 and WW2 killed off all of the best Frenchmen and left the manlet dregs to breed you.


27 posted on 04/06/2024 4:00:39 PM PDT by wildcard_redneck (He who sacrifices freedom for security deserves neither.)
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To: USA-FRANCE

I forgot to mention that all the real men that are left France had American and German grandfathers from WW2.


28 posted on 04/06/2024 4:06:41 PM PDT by wildcard_redneck (He who sacrifices freedom for security deserves neither.)
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To: who_would_fardels_bear
Actually I confused your post with one above it, so mea culpa.

But it turned out that Hersh was a little fact-challenged in his story:

https://oalexanderdk.substack.com/p/blowing-holes-in-seymour-hershs-pipe

As for the CIA having anything to do with a French publication, how can I be surprised? Its' SOP for the GRU. Covert activity on our social media runs rampant every day.

29 posted on 04/06/2024 4:29:34 PM PDT by Chad C. Mulligan
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To: Navy Patriot

How are you going to keep Ukraine out of NATO after this:

https://wltreport.com/2024/04/06/why-does-nato-headquarters-building-look-exactly-like/


30 posted on 04/06/2024 5:03:21 PM PDT by Cincinnatus.45-70 (What do DemocRats enjoy more than a truckload of dead babies? Unloading them with a pitchfork!)
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To: Cincinnatus.45-70

I always wondered where the SS went!


31 posted on 04/06/2024 5:33:40 PM PDT by Navy Patriot (Celebrate Decivilization)
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To: wildcard_redneck

You feel so triggered these days... how come? :)

Just like the Kremlin right now, you/they spend a lot of time insulting France at the moment. :) The reason is that Moscow is panicking that Europe (and especially France) is starting taking military initiatives without America. That’s a big problem for Russia, because it takes away Biden from the equation (!) whom as we know doesn’t want Ukraine to neither win or lose. He wants status quo.
France though, has said it wants Russia crushed in Ukraine, and will do all it can to make it happen. Great news!
Thus, Russia will just endlessly continue to ruin themselves economically but also continue to suffer untenable human losses.
+400.000 Russian losses already... that’s more than 4 to 5 times the losses the Ukrainians have.

France has become Russia’s nightmare. They didn’t expect France to become the new Wolf in town and not needing America!

Macron On Sending French Troops To Ukraine: If Russia Attacks Them We Do NOT Need NATO’s Help

https://www.novinite.com/articles/225328/Macron+On+Sending+French+Troops+To+Ukraine%3A+If+Russia+Attacks+Them+We+

As you see.. France says : “no need for NATO” to protect our troops in Ukraine.
France is in full self-confident mode! Yeehaaaa!
You should celebrate!


32 posted on 04/06/2024 6:39:01 PM PDT by USA-FRANCE
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To: Cincinnatus.45-70; Navy Patriot

You sent a link to a badly rendered 3d picture.
What’s the point of doing that?


33 posted on 04/06/2024 6:44:55 PM PDT by USA-FRANCE
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To: USA-FRANCE

France is a midget trying to punch above its weight. If it wasn’t for American-led NATO Mini Macron would never shoot his stupid mouth off.

You seem so eager for war but if there’s a draft in France they’re going to send all the European Frenchman off to die while the Muslims rape their women back home in Paris and Marseille.


34 posted on 04/06/2024 6:47:09 PM PDT by wildcard_redneck (He who sacrifices freedom for security deserves neither.)
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To: USA-FRANCE

It took a few seconds for the other pictures to load, but there are clear ones at the link. I’m not sure what the unclear one is, except possibly an overenlargement of the smaller ones.


35 posted on 04/06/2024 7:15:26 PM PDT by Cincinnatus.45-70 (What do DemocRats enjoy more than a truckload of dead babies? Unloading them with a pitchfork!)
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To: Cincinnatus.45-70

I just found some real pictures of it online.
Interesting. But I think it’s farfetched to see an SS sign.

https://images.hamodia.com/hamod-uploads/2017/05/24165149/2017-05-23T133234Z_1670172352_RC1B37056DE0_RTRMADP_3_NATO-SUMMIT-1024x565.jpg

Anyway, thanks for the heads-up.


36 posted on 04/06/2024 7:34:43 PM PDT by USA-FRANCE
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To: USA-FRANCE
Re: "Russia blatantly violated that agreement"

More accurately...

Russia responded to pleas for help from the Russian majority populations in Crimea and in the Donbas.

And, the Black Sea is Russia's only warm water port.

Are you old enough to remember when Panama evicted the USA from the Canal Zone?

Republican Senators and Congressmen were openly advocating for a USA military occupation.

In 1989, Panama President Noriega was accused of drug trafficking by GHW Bush, and the USA military invaded the country.

Noriega spent the last 30 years of his life in prison or home confinement.

37 posted on 04/07/2024 7:58:14 AM PDT by zeestephen (Trump "Lost" By 43,000 Votes - Spread Across Three States - GA, WI, AZ)
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To: zeestephen

“Russia responded to pleas for help from the Russian majority populations in Crimea and in the Donbas.”

>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>

That was a complete scam. Those so called “pleas” were just noise coming from Russia’s “little green men” and Kremlins deceit machine, which had already pre-invaded Parts of Ukraine anyway, Donbas in particular.

It’s just like Hitler pretending the Polish people were not nice to a few Germans living in a tiny enclave in Poland, which later gave Hitler the bad excuse to attack ALL of Poland. Putin pulled the exact same trick on Ukraine!
An old trick.

When it comes to Crimea:
Before the invasion and annexation of Crimea, most of the Russian Federation’s forces based in Crimea according to the terms of the Kharkiv Pact were navy ships of the Black Sea Fleet and their support staff. Of ground combat units, only the 510th Naval Infantry Brigade in Feodosiia and the 810th Naval Infantry Brigade in Simferopol were legally stationed on Ukrainian territory.

From February 20, 2014, a number of Russian army and airborne units entered Ukraine without permission, to occupy the Crimean peninsula, including elements of the following:[1]

7th Air Assault Division (Novorossiysk)
3rd Spetsnaz Brigade (Tolyatti)
10th Spetsnaz Brigade (Krasnodar)
16th Spetsnaz Brigade (Tambov)
18th Motor Rifle Brigade (Grozny)
22nd Spetsnaz Brigade (Stepnoy)
31st Air Assault Brigade (Ulyanovsk)
291st Artillery Brigade (Troitskaya)
25th Spetsnaz Regiment (Stavropol)
45th Spetsnaz Regiment (Kubinka, Moscow region)
382nd Naval Infantry Battalion (Temryuk)
727th Naval Infantry Battalion (Astrakhan)
Special Operations Forces Command (Prokhladny)

Donbas
The first wave of the invasion of regular troops of the Russian Federation came in August 2014.[2]
As of November 2016, troops from 75 Russian military units were identified in the Donbas according to investigations of the InformNapalm volunteer community.[3]
On the basis of some units of the invasion, as well as the mercenaries and collaboration, a regular structure was created with two Army Corps: 1st Army Corps in Donetsk and 2nd Army Corps in Lugansk.

July 2014
Diversion and reconnaissance teams, which entered Ukrainian territory beginning on July 14, 2014, were formed from elements of the following units:[4]

2nd Spetsnaz Brigade
10th Spetsnaz Brigade
45th Guards Independent Reconnaissance Regiment (Kubinka, Moscow Oblast)
173rd Separate Guards Reconnaissance Company, 106th Guards Tula Airborne Division (Tula)
Reconnaissance Battalion, 9th Separate Motor Rifle Brigade (former 84th Separate Reconnaissance Battalion)
Reconnaissance Battalion, 18th Guards Motor Rifle Brigade (formerly 18th Separate Reconnaissance Battalion)

August 2014
Battalion tactical groups, which entered Ukrainian territory beginning on August 11, 2014, were formed from elements of the following units:[4]

17th Guards Motor Rifle Brigade
18th Guards Motor Rifle Brigade
21st Guards Motor Rifle Brigade
33rd Mountain Motor Rifle Brigade
247th Guards Air Assault Regiment, 7th Guards Mountain Air Assault Division
104th Guards Air Assault Regiment, 76th Guards Air Assault Division
331st Guards Airborne Regiment, 98th Guards Airborne Division
137th Guards Airborne Regiment, 106th Guards Airborne Division
31st Guards Air Assault Brigade
2nd Spetsnaz Brigade

February 2015
As of February 2015, elements of the following Russian units were fighting in the Donbas:[4]

Northern Operational Area
2nd Guards Tamanskaya Motor Rifle Division (elements)
8th Guards Mountain Motor Rifle Brigade
18th Guards Motor Rifle Brigade
19th Motor Rifle Brigade
20th Guards Motor Rifle Division
23rd Guards Motor Rifle Brigade
27th Guards Motor Rifle Brigade
28th Motor Rifle Brigade
32nd Motor Rifle Brigade
33rd Mountain Motor Rifle Brigade
37th Guards Motor Rifle Brigade
31st Guards Air Assault Brigade
104th Guards Air Assault Regiment, 76th Guards Air Assault Division
217th Guards Airborne Regiment, 98th Guards Airborne Division
137th Guards Airborne Regiment, 106th Guards Airborne Division
10th Spetsnaz Brigade
346th Spetsnaz Brigade
25th Spetsnaz Regiment
FSB Special Operations Centre
Dzerzhinsky Division (elements)
107th Operational Brigade
Chechen Ministry of Internal Affairs Combined Battalion
5th Guards Tank Brigade
6th Tank Brigade
13th Guards Tank Regiment, 4th Guards Kantemirovskaya Tank Division
1st Guards Rocket Brigade
79th Guards Rocket Brigade
232nd Rocket Artillery Brigade
288th Artillery Brigade
291st Artillery Brigade
385th Guards Artillery Brigade
1065th Guards Artillery Regiment, 98th Guards Airborne Division
573rd Separate Artillery Reconnaissance Battalion
67th Anti-Aircraft Rocket Brigade
74th SIGINT Regiment
78th Materiel Support Brigade
7015th Armaments Maintenance Base
7016th Armaments Maintenance Base
282nd Armaments Repair Base
29th Railway Brigade
Southern Operational Area
2nd Guards Tamanskaya Motor Rifle Division (elements)
9th Separate Motor Rifle Brigade
138th Guards Motor Rifle Brigade
11th Guards Air Assault Brigade
45th Guards Independent Reconnaissance Regiment
561st Naval Spetsnaz Battalion
54th Reconnaissance Units Training Centre
Dzerzhinsky Division (elements)
12th Guards Tank Regiment, 4th Guards Kantemirovskaya Tank Division
200th Artillery Brigade
268th Guards Artillery Brigade
1140th Guards Artillery Regiment, 76th Guards Air Assault Division
59th Communications Brigade
95th Communications Brigade
31st Engineer Regiment
3rd Tactical Infantry Division (Yüksekova)


38 posted on 04/07/2024 9:58:21 AM PDT by USA-FRANCE
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