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To: ChicagoConservative27

I do not think Trump is real peacenik.
He won the war on ISIS and did not pulled out of Afghanistan.
I do not think he pulled out of any country?! (Name some if you know).

What he did is that he really wanted to win!
The worst problem of US foreign involvements is not going there, but failing to fight to win!
Even in Korea and definitely since Vietnam, we are fighting to win the soul of them.
That means we are limiting ourselves to all kind of rules, whose basically guarantee we will be stuck there for a long while and eventually loose.

Trump fight against ISIS was finally fought the way we should fight all the time. Just go there, destroy them, forget mosques, cemeteries or civilians.
Destroy them, place some puppet government there and get out!
I know a lot of Vietnam veterans who are pissed off about fighting with one hand tied behind their backs!


13 posted on 03/25/2024 11:00:05 AM PDT by AZJeep
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To: AZJeep
"I do not think he pulled out of any country?! (Name some if you know)."

IIRC, Trump and SOS Pompeo had discussions with the Taliban about when and how our exit from Aftganiscrap would occur. They told the Taliban if any American or ally is killed or harmed during the exit or even after, they would experience a "hell on Earth like no one has seen since WWII.", or words to that effect. Trump and Pompeo set a latter date for a smooth transitional withdrawal. All were agreed.

Of course, Biteme just couldn't go along with anything Trump and moved up the date for withdrawal. The Taliban saw that as breaking the agreement and we all saw on TV the resulting debacle at the airport and the resulting loss of American and other lives.

I don't think I'm too far off with this, but yes, Trump had already put in motion our exit from that crap country. America was ready to get out of there after 20 years of failed nation building. I agreed with Trump about cutting our losses getting the hell out of that savage tribal black hole. I was sick of seeing our best come home in a coffin or maimed for life. For what?

15 posted on 03/25/2024 1:04:13 PM PDT by A Navy Vet (USA Birth Certificate - 1787. Death Certificate - 2021? )
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To: AZJeep
"I know a lot of Vietnam veterans who are pissed off about fighting with one hand tied behind their backs!"

I do too. But that wasn't because of tribalism in South Viet Nam. They wanted to remain a free state like South Korea. It was because of the micro-management by Johnson and McNamara, and the BS from Cronkite and the peaceniks. May they all rot in hell.

Don't believe me? Cronkite reported the Tet Offensive as a win for the North, when in fact, General Giap said in his own biography that he was ready to pull the plug and end the war after what he considered a failed Tet Offensive. However, since the American anti-war sentiment was expanding, he decided to continue his aggression.

16 posted on 03/25/2024 1:20:24 PM PDT by A Navy Vet (USA Birth Certificate - 1787. Death Certificate - 2021? )
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