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Report: Speaker Mike Johnson Floats Ukraine Lend-and-Lease Legislation to Republican Senators
Breitbart ^ | 03/14/2024 | NICK GILBERTSON

Posted on 03/14/2024 10:41:03 AM PDT by ChicagoConservative27

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To: cuz1961

could hear his pockets growing and getting deeper and deeper and deeper.

vacate
the
chair
now

before its too late.


21 posted on 03/14/2024 11:07:31 AM PDT by cuz1961 (USCGR Vet, John Adams Descendant , deal with it.)
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To: ChicagoConservative27

“Lend” my white ass.


22 posted on 03/14/2024 11:11:10 AM PDT by AAABEST (That time Washington DC became a corrupted, existential threat to us all...)
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To: DesertRhino

He looked like a bobblehead. I wasn’t impressed. He seems really weasely to me.


23 posted on 03/14/2024 11:11:13 AM PDT by dforest
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To: cuz1961

Never saw those King movies.
Hard enough to live through the horror of Dems destroying our country.


24 posted on 03/14/2024 11:12:56 AM PDT by frank ballenger (There's a battle outside and it's raging. It'll soon shake your windows and rattle your walls.)
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To: ChicagoConservative27

This guy is such a load of crap! And, I suspected that at the moment “they” touted him as a Bible believin’, honorable man. The “Bible believin’ part was the tip-off!


25 posted on 03/14/2024 11:17:05 AM PDT by old school
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To: ChicagoConservative27
Actually a good idea.

The Biden Admin has totally screwed the pooch in Ukraine and he may have sealed it's doom. How's that Putin Price Hike wag the dog proxy war scheme going for you now, JoJo?

Not so well, it seems.

Short of direct NATO intervention, Ukraine has irretrievably lost the war. There is no dispute on that one.

The only question now is how badly is the Ukraine going to lose, is the Ukraine going to collapse and be over run by Russia or is a negotiated settlement possible and what are the terms of settlement.

Biden has left Ukraine defeated, exhausted and with little leverage left to negotiate a decent deal. I didn't have to be this way but the bad faith of Biden and NATO has brought us to the point.

If the US can provide the Ukraine with carefully controlled and targeted aid to give Ukraine enough leverage to obtain an honorable end to the war ASAP that would be a great thing.

But aid should be 100% contingent upon an immediate fast track in diplomatic actions to end the conflict on decent terms for Ukraine while we still can. Unfortunately, that will not happen because Biden and NATO fueled this war and they do not want to have to explain in an election year how Ukraine settles on much worse terms than the Ukraine could have settled a few weeks into conflict before Biden and Boris interjected themselves and torpedoed a negotiated settlement. And all after a casualty rate approaching one million, untold suffering and destruction and hundreds of billions of dollars pounded down the rat hole of losing cause in a senseless war.

We have on last chance to get things right and hopefully Speaker Johnson can be the statesman and voice of sanity in the room to get things on track.

Will it happen? Don't hold your breath.

26 posted on 03/14/2024 11:20:02 AM PDT by rdcbn1
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To: ChicagoConservative27; All
Thanks again for referencing these articles.

"The Hill’s Alexander Bolton reported on the conversations that occurred at the Library of Congress during the annual Republican Senate retreat and emphasized the speaker “cautioned that what comes out of the House [emphasis added] will look substantially different than the $95 billion foreign aid package the Senate passed last month.”"


FR: Never Accept the Premise of Your Opponent’s Argument

Given that Justice Joseph Story had noted that peacetime foreign aid is unconstitutional, what comes out of the House for the post-17th Amendment ratification Senate needs to include a resolution for proposing a new amendment to the Constitution to the states that, if the states choose to ratify it, will give Congress the specific power to tax and spend for peacetime foreign aid in the first place.

If the tax be not proposed for the common defence, or general welfare, but for other objects, wholly extraneous, (as for instance, for propagating Mahometanism among the Turks, or giving aids and subsidies to a foreign nation, to build palaces for its kings, or erect monuments to its heroes,) it would be wholly indefensible upon constitutional principles [emphases added].” — Justice Joseph Story, Commentaries on the Constitution 2 (1833).

That being said, patriots need to IMMEDIATELY primary ALL state and federal Trump-hating celebrity incumbent lawmakers and executives up for reelection this year, except for MTG, Gaetz & Company (and others?).

Beloved but worthless celebrity incumbents need to be replaced with Trump-supporting patriot lawmakers in November so that hopeful Trump 47 will not be a lame duck president from the first day of his second term in office, but will be supported by the new Congress to finish draining the swamp.

27 posted on 03/14/2024 11:20:54 AM PDT by Amendment10
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To: dforest

Sorry but I’ve got to agree with you.


28 posted on 03/14/2024 11:33:04 AM PDT by OKSooner ("You won't like what comes after America." - Leonard Cohen.)
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To: ChicagoConservative27

Oh, this is from Breitbart and not The Bee!

From the article: “Johnson told senators that the House will send a Ukraine aid package to the Senate but floated the idea of making it a loan or lend-lease program so U.S. taxpayers would not be shelling out tens of billions of dollars without any expectation of getting a return, according to senators who participated in the discussion.”

So if they don’t return the arms we loan them and pay the lease what do we do? Invade them and take some land as payment?


29 posted on 03/14/2024 11:59:33 AM PDT by chickenlips (Neuter your politicians)
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To: ChicagoConservative27

sounds like the House is into word games - like Clinton.

they will never go the negotiating table until he US money drys up.


30 posted on 03/14/2024 12:41:50 PM PDT by elpadre
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To: ChicagoConservative27

Come on Folks. We’ve been just giving money away to be skimmed and diverted. No accountability was needed. With a lend and lease program accountability will be introduced.

Watch how Zelensky tones down his requests when it gets harder to skim and it has to be paid back. Watch how other countries react when they learn their donations will be used to pay back the US loans.

I would prefer we give not one dollar to the most corrupt country in the world. That position would be a minority. At least put some salt in the sugar.

EC


31 posted on 03/14/2024 1:13:04 PM PDT by Ex-Con777
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I would prefer we give not one dollar to the most corrupt country in the world.

I don’t know. It still seems like we would be giving money to Biden and his derpstate puppet masters.

32 posted on 03/14/2024 1:22:29 PM PDT by Sirius Lee (Tonight on The Bickersons... )
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To: ChicagoConservative27

If I remember history correctly, the lease payment were never made under Lend-Lease.
Should he be discussing Ukraine while our border is still wide open with undesirables coming into our country every day?


33 posted on 03/14/2024 3:21:26 PM PDT by beekay (Missing Trump yet? )
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To: beekay

I thought the lease was paid “ in kind” by the use of British Overseas territories (primarily the Caribbean) during WWII.


34 posted on 03/14/2024 3:26:51 PM PDT by Reily (!!)
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