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Bitcoin buying advised as US enters the ‘looting-the-treasury phase’
Coin Telegraph ^ | 3/11/24 | Martin Young

Posted on 03/11/2024 12:28:09 PM PDT by EnderWiggin1970

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To: EnderWiggin1970

Bitcoin contrarians are like vaxxers and pharma shills. The my will NEVER admit that they were wrong.


61 posted on 03/11/2024 8:34:06 PM PDT by GunRunner
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To: suasponte137
Once it starts behaving like a normal currency,<\em>

By that do you mean that it needs to lose its value slowly over time?

62 posted on 03/12/2024 4:13:40 AM PDT by nitzy (I wonder if the telescreens in 1984 were first called "free Obamascreens")
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No, when I say it needs to start behaving like a normal currency, I mean it need to not lose 50% of its value in a month like its done three times in the last three years.


63 posted on 03/12/2024 6:35:31 AM PDT by suasponte137
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To: citizen
Until I can physically walk into Kroger with something tangible & unalterable and buy products, what good is it when the SHTF?

Nothing will be of much use in the short term in that case. Keep cash on hand for that.

If the shit hits the fan, banks won’t be open, card networks won’t function, and good luck paying for groceries in gold bars. It is possible that if cell networks still work, crypto might be the only payments network left standing, since everything else requires centralized network control.

Crypto doesn’t. All you need is a basic Internet connection.

64 posted on 03/12/2024 8:02:56 AM PDT by GunRunner
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when anyhing internet connected may not be worth anything…

Also, there’s no way to wipe out bitcoin unless you were destroy the entire Internet and every single network device on the planet. There is no centralized Bitcoin hub or server, so even if you lose access to it due to a network outage, it will still be there once you reconnect.

65 posted on 03/12/2024 8:11:19 AM PDT by GunRunner
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To: suasponte137

That’s because the market cap of bitcoin has been under $1 trillion. Once it overtakes the top five equities, silver, and eventually gold, the wild fluctuations will slowly cascade away.


66 posted on 03/12/2024 8:15:44 AM PDT by GunRunner
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To: GunRunner

Maybe the new ETFs will also mitigate some volatility going forward....but like I already said, I just don’t see it as a reliable for of currency until the volatility subsides.


67 posted on 03/12/2024 8:23:09 AM PDT by suasponte137
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To: Drago
It’s amazing how bitcoin critics have to dream up the absolute worst, most apocalyptic and catastrophic scenarios to critique it.

As if stores of value will mean much when literally nothing works and we’re in Mad Max world.

Regardless, you’d think critics would understand that even in that scenario, being able to take currency and stores of value with you wherever you go, with no hardware, shiny rocks or pieces of paper to carry, all with just a 12 word phrase memorized in your head, is a huge benefit.

If you had to get out of Dodge and leave everything behind, EVERYTHING except your clothes on your back, you would KILL to be able to convert your entire net worth into an instantly accessible digital asset that is waiting for you once you settle somewhere.

68 posted on 03/12/2024 8:24:04 AM PDT by GunRunner
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I work in the industry, and will tell you that a big reason it’s not widely available as an APM (alternative payment method) is because CFOs are 1.) instinctively scared of it 2.) worry about volatility, even there are solutions that allow you to accept crypto but be settled in fiat 3.) worry about ESG blowback.

ETFs and other things will change that, but it will take time.

Cryptocurrency payments are by far the cheapest and fastest way to settle currency, and have no fraud or chargeback risk.

Merchants are EXTREMELY slow to adopt anything new, simply out of principle.

69 posted on 03/12/2024 8:28:25 AM PDT by GunRunner
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“worry about volatility, even there are solutions that allow you to accept crypto but be settled in fiat”

If the transaction is to be ultimately settled with Fiat....why not just start with Fiat instead of adding an additional level of complexity?

The purchaser just transition their crypto to fiat then make the purchase?


70 posted on 03/12/2024 11:09:48 AM PDT by suasponte137
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The purchaser just transition their crypto to fiat then make the purchase?

Expensive and slow, for both buyer and retailer. It’s adding a step that’s not necessary if you can accept crypto directly.

If you’re a retailer that allows people to monetize their gains directly instead of selling off first, you open yourself up to a huge community.

Its hugely popular in the big ticket luxury goods, from jewelry and designer clothes to Ferraris, yachts, and real estate.

If you have a $1 million real estate transaction that can be settled instantly via crypto (plus a day for settlement via wire or ACH), it reduces counterparty risk on both sides, and cuts out banking transaction fees and KYC for one of the stops at a bank. Every time you move lots of money, financial services companies take a piece.

The modern banking system is essentially decades, maybe centuries behind other technologies. We move money very similar to how it was moved prior to WW2, just with shinier networks. But the nostro/vostro reserve banking system is essentially the same. One of the biggest sources of FUD against bitcoin is the banking industry. 90% of them would probably be out of work in a blockchain world.

Critics of bitcoin are essentially Internet critics from the mid-90s, “What would it be used for? Yeah sure. Who’s going to trust their banking to the Internet!? Using the Internet for stocks and investing? Haha, no way. We have trading floors for that!”

Its huge outside the US. While lots of people in the US hold crypto, we’re very much behind the ROW when it comes to using it for transactions.

71 posted on 03/12/2024 11:49:24 AM PDT by GunRunner
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“The purchaser just transition their crypto to fiat then make the purchase?
Expensive and slow, for both buyer and retailer. It’s adding a step that’s not necessary if you can accept crypto directly.”

It seems like this by itself would be an emerging market then....The business of transitioning crypto to fiat fast and cheap. Similar to market makers in the options market.

But I see a risk in whoever does this, in taking losses in the crypto it holds if the crypto market has a bad week. Or being stuck holding the bag if crypto does take a regular downturn....people offload their crypto for fiat...then buy back in at a lower level.

Market Makers that deal in the options market have a way of hedging their positions when they sell options by purchasing or shorting the underlying stock....

I cant see how a crypto “Market Maker” could do this to protect themselves

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72 posted on 03/12/2024 12:00:27 PM PDT by suasponte137
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To: EnderWiggin1970

I think the currency will collapse, and BTC might be an option, if our rights survive, witch I really am concerned about.

Money, BTC , land, gold, silver, the ability to carry out free transactions mean nothing if class warfare results from the class envy from the left is allowed to carry out it’s inevitable communism.

When the dollar finally collapses, and all those government programs from Social Security to unemployment monthly payments can’t buy a loaf of bread, the economically uneducated masses will DEMAND the government fix the problem.

-THEN, the government will happily say “Ok, we can fix this, but that pesky constitution that protects the rich, just has to go!”.

Artificailly intentionally induced class warfare. Cloward Piven.


73 posted on 03/13/2024 2:37:00 AM PDT by Wildbill22 (They have us surrounded again, the poor bastards- Gen Creighton William Abrams)
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