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WW III here we come...
1 posted on 03/11/2024 11:33:28 AM PDT by ChicagoConservative27
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To: ChicagoConservative27

If they want to increase their spending on these efforts, fine. They need to defend themselves.

They also need to defend themselves from the globalists who are pushing war with Russia.


2 posted on 03/11/2024 11:40:44 AM PDT by dforest
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To: ChicagoConservative27

POUND THOSE WAR DRUMS!! World War 3 will be a piece of cake.


3 posted on 03/11/2024 11:44:27 AM PDT by House Atreides (I’m now ULTRA-MAGA. -PRO-MA)
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To: ChicagoConservative27

This might move the needle on the Ukraine war in 12-18 months.


4 posted on 03/11/2024 11:50:16 AM PDT by glorgau
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To: ChicagoConservative27
Info posted to another, similar thread:

US GDP - 24 trillion USD > [ is greater than ] EU GDP - 17 trillion USD > Russia GDP - 2.5 trillion USD estimate.

EU population - 450 million > US population - 340 million > Russia population 145 million.

Poland's GDP alone is supposed to be about half of Russia's, and their population is about 36 million our of the EU's 450 million. Seems as if the EU member states could and should be providing for their own defense if the "bear" is so threatening.

"Let's Ukrainians and Russians fight" as a proxy for Europe/NATO in general and Poland in specific has not proved as effective as the proxy enthusiasts have thought it to be. Oops.

It will be lovely to watch the other EU member states discuss spending 3% of their budgets. Why not 5%? Why not more?

5 posted on 03/11/2024 11:53:35 AM PDT by Worldtraveler once upon a time (Degrow government)
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To: ChicagoConservative27

Here’s a few thoughts about Russia’s desires re imperialism and defense spending by Nato going up to 3%.

# 1, many of these socialist weenies/sissies raised by single moms and dead beat dads RUN AWAY when their country is attacked. Duuh! This is a recent and indisputable FACT. So, WHY should one American Mother’s son die for the bastards?

# 2, forget 3% of GDP and start thinking 30% or more in today’s high tech enormously destructive/lethal combat.

# 3, Russia’s GDP is less than 2 million and falling. NATO’s is many, many times that.

# 4. IF Trump get’s in, you European socialist creeps are on your on.

I predict you’ll be drafting women to fight!


6 posted on 03/11/2024 12:00:00 PM PDT by Cen-Tejas
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Nope-

Despite all the talk of a Russian threat and war, nations like Germany, Hungary, Austria, Italy know the truth and they have no interest in paying more. Maybe a little bit (~10-20%), but nothing even close to 3% which would a doubling for Spain.

The ones that are paying over 2% or even 3% are those that have colonial interests in Africa, Asia and South America, specifically France and the UK. Outside of NATO, they have their own interests which they need to be able to fight for.

In fact, since the wars begin over 2 years ago, those nations not paying their minimum contractual NATO requirement, STILL have not increased their spending to at least the minimum 2%.

Behind closed doors, no one believes in this Russian threat, because it is simply not there. It’s empirically, measurably, i.e. “factually” not a reality. The threat being sold to the public is a Cold War era threat, a boogieman that ceased to exist in 1991 with the dissolution of the Soviet Union. Only months apart, you had the dissolution of the Warsaw Pact also in 1991. There is no Warsaw Pact or Soviet threat. There is merely a Russia, with 1/3 the military manpower they had in the Soviet era, whom we have been kicking in the balls for years.

Hungary, Italy, Spain... have zero interest in spending their money on our wars. Now, that’s not how CNN is going to explain it, but that’s what it’s really about.


8 posted on 03/11/2024 12:06:42 PM PDT by Red6
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Now how will they blame Trump for this bit of common sense???


14 posted on 03/11/2024 12:24:01 PM PDT by jdsteel (PA voters elected a stroke victim and a dead guy. Not a joke. )
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No-one in North America should pay even one more dollar in defence of these Euro-Clowns.

Canada out of NATO now !


17 posted on 03/11/2024 12:30:59 PM PDT by Reverend Wright ( Everything touched by progressives, dies !)
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To: ChicagoConservative27

The Trump Effect.


20 posted on 03/11/2024 1:01:07 PM PDT by JonPreston ( ✌ ☮️ )
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To: ChicagoConservative27

I don’t care what European nations spend on their own defense.
The defense of Western and Eastern Europe is on them......Period.

Never forget, Great Power Nations decide when and where they want to fight......regardless of NATO ‘paperwork.’


25 posted on 03/11/2024 1:30:33 PM PDT by unclebankster (Globalism is the last refuge of a scoundrel.)
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To: ChicagoConservative27

What a novel idea, defending your own country.


28 posted on 03/11/2024 2:21:26 PM PDT by McGruff (Don't underestimate Joe's ability to f*** things up - Barack Obama)
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To: ChicagoConservative27; BroJoeK; dforest; House Atreides; glorgau; gleeaikin; Timber Rattler; ...

Poland Calls on NATO Allies to Raise Defence Spending to Three Per Cent of GDP

“WW III here we come...”

>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>

“WWIII here we come” you say...

Well... on the contrary! The more we raise our readiness to fight, the less chance there will be war. Remember, Putin only invades weak countries. Weakness attracts violence. Thats why some women get raped, because they are weaker and unarmed... and will therefore be attacked by brute criminals who prey on weakness.

If the criminals and rapists would know in advance that every woman wears a gun and is trained to use it... rape-cases would diminish by 95%.

Have you ever heard the term : “If you want peace, prepare for war!” ?
Or this one: “Hope for the best while preparing for the worst!” ?

Don’t forget that Trump is the one who pushed NATO-members to increase their spendings for their own respective armies to at least 2%.
Thus, when Poland says Every NATO member should invest 3% Poland is 100% in line with the Trump philosophy. Good right?

Trump was a true interventionist in foreign countries when he was President.
Lets not forget the 300 Russian troops he massacred in Syria.
https://themedialine.org/headlines/pompeo-us-killed-300-russians-in-syria/

The eradications of ISIS,

He leveled a Russian/Syrian military air-base with 59 Tomahawks (Tucker went mad on Trump on this... on his live Foxnews show).

Trump assassinated Iranian military leaders, with Smart bombs

He also assassinated scores of Islamic terrorist leaders.

Trump also reacted with a lot of toughness after Russian military officials incentivized the killing of American troops in Afghanistan by paying bounties to Taliban fighters for every American soldier killed.

Tump was a Reaganesque interventionist in foreign countries.

He even said that he would NEVER had abandoned Americas airbases in Afghanistan.

And he gave the mission to US troops to “take the oil” in Syria.

Trump also sent shiploads of high-tech US weaponry to Ukraine.
He was also the one who initiated massive sanctions against Russia.

Trump expelled 60 Russian diplomats from America.

And the list goes on... and on.... and on...

His non-stop interventions in foreign countries helped secure Americas security. You may now think that Trump is a neo-con? Well yes he is, in his own very unique way. He understands security, THAT is what matters.

On another note:
France will this year of 2024 surpass the 2% suggested level in military spending within NATO.
The newly joined NATO member Sweden will start paying 2.5% right of the bat!
Thats a first and a historic powerful move for Sweden.


29 posted on 03/11/2024 4:20:52 PM PDT by USA-FRANCE
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To: ChicagoConservative27

War is nothing more than methods to enrich those who Eisenhower warned us about.
https://youtu.be/SEGpTu8sVKI?si=k9wD8ZMkrY40I4al


36 posted on 03/11/2024 6:02:25 PM PDT by RasterMaster ("Towering genius disdains a beaten path." - Abraham Lincoln)
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To: ChicagoConservative27

Canada has never met their 2%.


37 posted on 03/11/2024 6:26:31 PM PDT by jacknhoo (Luke 12:51; Think ye, that I am come to give peace on earth? I tell you, no; but separation.)
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To: ChicagoConservative27

GloboHomo is upset.


43 posted on 03/11/2024 8:00:41 PM PDT by Trumpisourlastchance
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To: ChicagoConservative27

Leave it to the Chicken Littles on here to turn a commonsense proposal, one that would benefit America and NATO countries alike, into a harbinger of WWIII. LOL.


47 posted on 03/11/2024 10:04:36 PM PDT by FormerFRLurker ("Those who can make you believe absurdities can make you commit atrocities"-Voltaire)
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To: ChicagoConservative27
The Poles lived under Russian tyranny after WWII for decades.

They are not going back.

Unlike Joe Biden, the Poles understand that strength, not weakness, is a preffered effective deterrent.

The Poles have a valiant warrior tradition.ALL OF NATO should listen.

Here is some of it:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/No._303_Squadron_RAF

48 posted on 03/12/2024 2:48:57 AM PDT by Candor7 (Ask not for whom Trump Trolls,He trolls for thee!),<img src="" width=300</img><a href="">tag</a>)
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Good. Then we can leave and quit supporting the dead beats.

L


112 posted on 03/12/2024 4:02:17 PM PDT by Lurker ( Peaceful coexistence with the Left is not possible. Stop pretending that it is.)
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