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With a yearly deficit in the trillions, government looks to go after 401(k) accounts for new revenue
American Thinker ^ | 02/23/2024 | Jack Hellner

Posted on 02/23/2024 9:41:14 AM PST by SeekAndFind

A majority of Americans are living paycheck-to-paycheck. A majority don’t have enough money to pay for a thousand-dollar emergency. Home ownership is a rapidly dissipating aspect of the American dream. Americans’ credit card debt is at a record high because of high inflation and the cost-of-living, and they’re falling behind on debt payments. People don’t have enough money for retirement.

So what is the solution? Well for some economists, it’s time to take away the tax benefit for 401(k) plans because the government is short of revenue to pay for their exorbitant spending.

See here, from USA Today:

What if the government abolished your 401(k)? Economists say accounts aren’t worth it

The federal government should stop allowing pre-tax contributions to retirement savings, abolishing the 401(k) and Individual Retirement Account, two economists from opposing ideological camps argued in a research brief in January.

Allowing people to shelter their retirement money from taxes is a policy that largely favors the well-heeled, they said. Congress could use that money, nearly $200 billion a year in lost tax dollars….

Oh, Congress could use that money? Yeah, well so could we, and we’re the ones who earned it. And $200 billion a year? This is a pittance toward covering the $2 trillion yearly deficit the federal government is running in a supposedly great economy.

Here is a novel thought for economists, politicians, and bureaucrats. Why don’t you guys look at the spending side of the equation instead of always seeking to confiscate more money from the rest of us? Your modus operandi further destroys our purchasing power and ability to save, spend, or invest, and that inevitably slows the economy.

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TOPICS: Business/Economy; Government; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: 401k; budget; debt; deficit
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1 posted on 02/23/2024 9:41:14 AM PST by SeekAndFind
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To: SeekAndFind

Government must be put on a Budget by Law


2 posted on 02/23/2024 9:43:38 AM PST by butlerweave
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To: SeekAndFind

Screw the people.


3 posted on 02/23/2024 9:44:59 AM PST by beethovenfan (The REAL Great Reset will be when Jesus returns. )
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To: butlerweave

RE: Government must be put on a Budget by Law

Yep, that’s what Switzerland does.


4 posted on 02/23/2024 9:45:12 AM PST by SeekAndFind
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To: SeekAndFind

Define “well healed” - people with very modest incomes invest in those to have retirement. “mostly” well healed? Going with total amount invested overall to claim it only benefits the rich, therefore screw over everyone else who would be hurt the most?


5 posted on 02/23/2024 9:46:29 AM PST by Republican Wildcat
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To: butlerweave
Government must be put on a Budget by Law

Government is the worst violator of the law.

6 posted on 02/23/2024 9:47:24 AM PST by Tell It Right (1st Thessalonians 5:21 -- Put everything to the test, hold fast to that which is true.)
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To: SeekAndFind

“Economists”

They are not the government and this is not going to happen.


7 posted on 02/23/2024 9:47:25 AM PST by TornadoAlley3 ( I'm Proud To Be An Okie From Muskogee)
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To: SeekAndFind

Do you idiots in DC realize there’s another way to reduce the deficit...cut spending?


8 posted on 02/23/2024 9:47:37 AM PST by econjack
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To: Republican Wildcat

Well-heeled is the new rich.


9 posted on 02/23/2024 9:49:00 AM PST by Ken H (Trump 2024)
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To: SeekAndFind

That $200 billion would go straight to Ukraine and illegals, and we all know it.


10 posted on 02/23/2024 9:49:42 AM PST by SamAdams76 (6,575,474 Truth | 87,429,044 Twitter)
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To: econjack

“Do you idiots in DC realize there’s another way to reduce the deficit...cut spending?”


They are not idiots. They know exactly what they’re doing.


11 posted on 02/23/2024 9:50:54 AM PST by Ken H (Trump 2024)
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To: SeekAndFind

A few years ago some Congressman floated the idea of just seizing 401k accounts. His nonsensical argument was because these accounts are tax-deferred, the accounts really belong to the government.

It wouldn’t be outright theft, dontcha know. The account holders would get long-term 2% government bonds in return.

This scheme is obviously illegal. And it went nowhere. But I expect it to be revisited when the federal government finally flies off the deficit cliff.


12 posted on 02/23/2024 9:51:27 AM PST by Leaning Right (The steal is real.)
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To: SeekAndFind

If money can be created by fiat then they can simply print what the government needs.

“There’s an infinite amount of cash at the Federal Reserve”

Neel Kashkari, Minneapolis Federal Reserve


13 posted on 02/23/2024 9:53:46 AM PST by packagingguy
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To: SeekAndFind
Anything is possible but I don't know why robber politicians would want to incur risks and wrath by fiddling with 401s more than already.

Right now, 401s are being taxed by inflation at about 12 percent a year (I'd say). Congress has voted to impose the inflation.

Congress is easily getting away with the inflation tax; there is no reason to go on record voting for another tax that might be the straw on the camel.

14 posted on 02/23/2024 9:54:19 AM PST by jeffersondem
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To: SeekAndFind

I got a better plan for Federal Funding.

The States all have to pay a sum of money for all people living within their borders, ILLEGALS OR CITIZENS. Thus, there will be no Representation without Taxation. That money must be generated by the States based upon Census data to cover any shortfall of a Deficit by Congress.

Then all of the sudden the illegal immigration problem and deficit spending problem will evaporate.........


15 posted on 02/23/2024 9:55:25 AM PST by Pete Dovgan
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To: SeekAndFind
I read yesterday the details of the "give-the-illegal-aliens-in-NYC-$15200/year" plan. Although touted as a savings because the illegals are throwing away the food, it's a pilot program costing $6 million, but would be expanded to $54 million. Then, the economic-illiterate journalist said "... it will cost New York City $54 million".

Wrong?

It doesn't cost the city or its politicians a cent. The plan cost the taxpayers of NYC the full cost of the "re-elect-me" giveaway to the illegals.

16 posted on 02/23/2024 9:57:29 AM PST by econjack
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To: SeekAndFind

Now that they have destroyed company retirement pensions, they can move on.

Note that this is also throttling the golden goose. The 401(k) was a way for the FedGov to harness American greed to make the worker manage an investment for the “silent” partner of government. FedGov should get more from invested money, but it has to wait - which may be just too much.

BTW, I would have liked to see a court declare the 401(k) unconstitutional. The dubious 16th Amendment gives Congress the ability to tax incomes. This is NOT the ability to run an investment scheme to try to motivate citizens to earn it more money. Any taxation the FedGov didn’t want to take should be lost to the earner.


17 posted on 02/23/2024 9:58:23 AM PST by Empire_of_Liberty ( )
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To: Ken H

I don’t understand why voters keep putting these clowns in office. Clearly, no one holds the politicians responsible or they just don’t care.


18 posted on 02/23/2024 10:00:14 AM PST by econjack
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To: Ken H

Bkmk


19 posted on 02/23/2024 10:00:56 AM PST by ptsal (Vote R.E.D. >>>Remove Every Democrat ***)
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To: econjack

easiest way to reduce the country’s debt, devalue the currency

easiest way to devalue the currency, run up inflation

Thanks Joe Biden


20 posted on 02/23/2024 10:01:09 AM PST by ChronicMA
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