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Vaccinated People Can Still Transmit Disease, FDA and CDC Officials Admit
Epoch Times ^ | 2/15/2024 | Marina Zhang

Posted on 02/17/2024 6:25:17 AM PST by Sicon

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To: Alberta's Child

Alberta’s Child wrote: “You have no idea how many lives those so-called “vaccines” have saved. 14 million? I’ll bet you can’t even cite a single case of a “vaccinated” person who is alive today who would not be alive without a COVID “vaccine.””

Those saved by the vaccines are all around you.


61 posted on 02/17/2024 8:40:20 AM PST by DugwayDuke (Most pick the expert who says the things they agree with.)
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To: dforest

dforest wrote: “No, but we can name one that is not really a vaccine that is not in the slightest bit effective that has killed and ruined lives all over the planet.”

No, you cannot because the covid vaccines are vaccines.


62 posted on 02/17/2024 8:41:17 AM PST by DugwayDuke (Most pick the expert who says the things they agree with.)
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To: DugwayDuke
No, I am not an “anti-vaxxer”. I have received numerous actual vaccines. What I am, is anti bogus, experimental, forced/coerced, government propaganda, ineffective, unsafe, and entirely unecessary “vaccines”.

You are either incredibly obtuse, or just plain stupid. Your “logic” inclines me to go with the latter.

63 posted on 02/17/2024 8:43:56 AM PST by Sicon ("All animals are equal, but some animals are more equal than others." - G. Orwell>)
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To: metmom

The ‘6 foot distancing’ was criminally stupid.


64 posted on 02/17/2024 8:48:35 AM PST by Cowgirl of Justice
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To: DugwayDuke
vaccines that have saved over 14 million lives

Prove it.

Statistical Analysis underlies this claim and has no factual basis in reality. To support any claim that said statistics were generated honestly with factual data gives unwarranted credibility to those who have been shown to be patently dishonest and untrustworthy.

Claiming that this mRNA therapy, which is experimental, saved one life cannot be proven, only inferred. Considering what we've seen, the laughable claims that any efficacy at all was obtained by this shot does not hold up as reasonable considering overwhelming empirical evidence that dictate such claims are baseless.

I remember when science was trustworthy and was crucial in advancing society and more. Those days are long past.
65 posted on 02/17/2024 8:56:22 AM PST by Pox (Eff You China. Buy American!)
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To: Sicon

This is nothing new-we knew people that took the shot were shedding covid.


66 posted on 02/17/2024 8:57:17 AM PST by yldstrk
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To: outofsalt
In a world where men can have babies, the “vaccine” claims are only a drop in the climate bucket of lies.

With someone sitting on the USSC for a lifetime who is not willing to define a woman, the day when such "lies" may become acceptable standards could not be far behind.

It is well known the nation's entire population was urged to take the "vaccine", not just volunteers, as the specified clinical trials for the proposed vaccine proceeded.

Those trials may only have been recently completed 4+ years after the onset, with regard to the current version of the vaccine.

67 posted on 02/17/2024 8:59:56 AM PST by frog in a pot (Sheriff Jones of Ohio tells us why each and every single one of us is a frog in a pot.)
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To: DugwayDuke

And the definition of Woman is?

Just because you call it a vaccine, after redefining that word multiple times in order to get said shot included, does not make it what most consider a vaccine.

You’re playing around with semantics, and that is a sure tell.


68 posted on 02/17/2024 9:00:00 AM PST by Pox (Eff You China. Buy American!)
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To: Pox

Pox wrote: “Statistical Analysis underlies this claim and has no factual basis in reality. To support any claim that said statistics were generated honestly with factual data gives unwarranted credibility to those who have been shown to be patently dishonest and untrustworthy.”

The dishones and untrusty ones are those creating false narratives to sell their snake oil cures. See McCullough, etc.

Pox wrote: “Claiming that this mRNA therapy, which is experimental, saved one life cannot be proven, only inferred. Considering what we’ve seen, the laughable claims that any efficacy at all was obtained by this shot does not hold up as reasonable considering overwhelming empirical evidence that dictate such claims are baseless.”

The mRNA vaccines are not ‘experimental’ and statistical analysis demonstrates the reduction in lives-lost after the distribution of the vaccines.


69 posted on 02/17/2024 9:02:21 AM PST by DugwayDuke (Most pick the expert who says the things they agree with.)
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To: DugwayDuke
Those saved by the vaccines are all around you.

You said there are 14 million of them. I asked you to name one — and that’s your answer?

If you weren’t a reputable long-time Freeper I’d call you a moron, but I’ll let it go at that. :-O

70 posted on 02/17/2024 9:05:58 AM PST by Alberta's Child (If something in government doesn’t make sense, you can be sure it makes dollars.)
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To: Sicon

This nothing new. This little tidbit was put out when covid and and vaccines first surfaced by independent researchers that were totally shunned by the establishment government and big pharma.

We followed the advice of those independents, never took one shot at all and are healthy today because of it.

Many people caught on half way through the game by only getting the initial shot or maybe just one booster. I feel sorry for those that got all the boosters they could find and still wear masks today. They will be joining the other departed sheep much sooner than nature would otherwise do it.


71 posted on 02/17/2024 9:06:03 AM PST by redfreedom (Joseph Stalin: "It does not mater how anyone votes, how votes are counted is what matters.")
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To: coloradan

“a treatment that might slightly reduce the symptoms of a disease”

or might make it worse or might cause other health issues....

Lol.


72 posted on 02/17/2024 9:08:36 AM PST by cgbg ("Our democracy" = Their Kleptocracy)
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To: redfreedom

My first clue that the vaccines were a fraud was the treatment of illegal aliens.

If this was truly a serious threat that the vaccines could solve the border would have been sealed tight to prevent the unvaxxed from entering the country.

Always watch what they do—ignore what they say.


73 posted on 02/17/2024 9:10:44 AM PST by cgbg ("Our democracy" = Their Kleptocracy)
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To: Jane Long

The man who made the video is a doctor - he has a website but I couldn’t make it out when he said to check out his other videos at the end of this video.


74 posted on 02/17/2024 9:11:25 AM PST by Cowgirl of Justice
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To: DugwayDuke
Prove the vaccines haven’t saved over 14 million lives.

Prove a negative. You just failed logic 101. Embarrassingly so.

75 posted on 02/17/2024 9:13:14 AM PST by Sirius Lee (Next week on The Bickersons... )
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To: DugwayDuke

You made the claim.

It’s up to you to prove it.

Throwing it back on to me to prove a negative is disingenuous and only goes to show that you can’t support your contention, which is what we all knew anyways.

Thanks. That’s just what I expected.


76 posted on 02/17/2024 9:20:15 AM PST by metmom (He who testifies to these things says, “Surely I am coming soon.” Amen. Come, Lord Jesus…)
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To: aMorePerfectUnion; Alberta's Child

More like paid to gaslight us.


77 posted on 02/17/2024 9:22:58 AM PST by metmom (He who testifies to these things says, “Surely I am coming soon.” Amen. Come, Lord Jesus…)
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To: Sicon

I hear you.


78 posted on 02/17/2024 9:23:51 AM PST by metmom (He who testifies to these things says, “Surely I am coming soon.” Amen. Come, Lord Jesus…)
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To: Sicon

If I need information on Covid and vaccine, i will go ask the nearest grammar school kid for advice. This entire agency is as politicized as the FBI, CIA, etc. When they talk the Obama-Biden Regime speaks. I smell a new scheme fir bogus mail in ballots and another national shut down.


79 posted on 02/17/2024 9:23:58 AM PST by ZULU (DUMP RONA ROMNEY MCDANIELS!!!)
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To: DugwayDuke
The mRNA vaccines are not ‘experimental’ and statistical analysis demonstrates the reduction in lives-lost after the distribution of the vaccines.

I deal with statistical analysis in my work all the time, and I call bullsh!t (for the second time) on that.

There was never a vaccine developed against the virus that caused the Spanish Flu, and yet death rates from that pandemic eventually dropped to zero. You can find dozens of correlations between the end of the Spanish Flu and things that had no impact whatsoever on the progression and the end of the pandemic.

80 posted on 02/17/2024 9:24:31 AM PST by Alberta's Child (If something in government doesn’t make sense, you can be sure it makes dollars.)
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