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Interesting.

Prior analysis:

https://www.science.org/content/article/impending-sale-scientifically-critical-helium-sparks-worries

1 posted on 01/26/2024 6:15:56 AM PST by logi_cal869
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Clickable prior analysis:

https://www.science.org/content/article/impending-sale-scientifically-critical-helium-sparks-worries


2 posted on 01/26/2024 6:16:14 AM PST by logi_cal869 (-cynicus the "concern troll" a/o 10/03/2018 /!i!! &@$%&*(@ -)
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To: logi_cal869

Dead people don’t need MRI machines.


3 posted on 01/26/2024 6:18:19 AM PST by Empire_of_Liberty
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To: logi_cal869

Lordy that is a stupid move


4 posted on 01/26/2024 6:20:47 AM PST by Nifster ( I see puppy dogs in the clouds )
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To: logi_cal869; Alberta's Child

So now a German company - which only began operating in America in 2019 after the Linde-Praxair merger - is going to be in possession of America’s largest stockpile of helium.

Why?


5 posted on 01/26/2024 6:23:25 AM PST by Ultra Sonic 007 (There is nothing new under the sun.)
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Nice tidy 10% for the big guy and donations to the DNC.


7 posted on 01/26/2024 6:26:22 AM PST by Redleg Duke (“Who is John Galt?”)
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“F”ING O’BIDEN!!! Somebody in Congress needs to be all over this!


9 posted on 01/26/2024 6:29:59 AM PST by WellyP (question!)
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To: logi_cal869
Is there anything the DemonRatz won't steal from the American people?

For crying out loud, how much cocaine does the Biden family need?

You know why it is named helium? Because it is so rare we found it in the Sun before we found it on the Earth.

Primary sources are from radioactive decay or other alpha-particle emitters.

10 posted on 01/26/2024 6:31:14 AM PST by Aevery_Freeman (I didn't mis-gender you, You did!)
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we are stressing about this shortage. From a health care perspective, MRI machines are the No. 1 concern.”
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Helium has many uses:

cooling medium for the large hadron collider.
superconducting magnets in MRI scanners and NMR spectrometers.
to fill decorative balloons, weather balloons and airships.
used to detect leaks, like in car-conditioning systems.
helium-neon gas lasers are used to scan barcodes at checkouts.

From

https://www.google.com/search?q=helium+uses+in+everyday+life&ie=UTF-8&oe=UTF-8&hl=en-us&client=safari


15 posted on 01/26/2024 6:40:44 AM PST by KittenClaws (God is true to His Word.)
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Very concerning, read the article and it said they have been working on this sale for a decade. But, I did not see why. Why are they selling it?


16 posted on 01/26/2024 6:42:01 AM PST by HollyB
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To: logi_cal869

Not a great thing but unless the company has its own army, there’s always nationalization.


17 posted on 01/26/2024 6:42:11 AM PST by mikey_hates_everything
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iirc helium is used in spacex starship raptor engines


20 posted on 01/26/2024 6:49:17 AM PST by SteveH
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To: logi_cal869

Federal gov’t has no business controlling helium.

This is only 30% and much of the remainder is under control of US corporations, not foreign.

This article is lamenting the gov’t giving up power.


27 posted on 01/26/2024 7:11:23 AM PST by Erik Latranyi (This is the end of the Republic....because we could not keep it.)
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part of the planned destruction of America.

Energy independence, gone,

Economy, destroyed with debt,

Water storage, being decimated,

Farmland, sold to China or set fallow forever,

Freedom, crushed by Executive Order and dismissal of Supreme Court rulings,

FDA endangering life rather than protecting life.

Public Schools, corrupting our youth rather than educating them,

Justice system promotes crime and targets conservatives.

etc.....

31 posted on 01/26/2024 7:18:44 AM PST by G Larry (It's RACIST to impose SLAVE WAGES on LEGAL immigrants and minorities by importing ILLEGAL Laborers)
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From the article conclusion:
Gottwald is hopeful the government will grant further delays to a sale that was originally scheduled for 2021. “We have a lot of folks who share our concerns,” he says.

Once the helium is extracted, the reservoir could be used to store other gases, but for now, the sprawling government asset is beset by maintenance issues and litigation. Garvey wonders whether anyone will bid on the reserve at all. “We won’t know until they open those bids,” she says. “Believe me, we are all kind of curious.”

Could be quite a coup for China to be the bid winner.

32 posted on 01/26/2024 7:22:08 AM PST by PIF (They came for me and mine ... now its your turn)
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To: logi_cal869

Part of the reason industry have concerns about a shortage could be BECAUSE the government owns/controls it. In the past, its usually good when Fed.gov gets out of operating in private industry space.

Is this time different? I would have to study it more

What’s weird is that the marxists in DC are actually selling off public property at the moment. That’s not in their standard operating procedure


33 posted on 01/26/2024 7:27:55 AM PST by PGR88
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The Democrats --- selling off the family jewels and the seed corn and taxpayer funded infrastructure to non-Americans.

From at least the Clintons forward. Thirty plus years of national destruction from the Left.

34 posted on 01/26/2024 7:30:08 AM PST by Worldtraveler once upon a time (Degrow government)
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To: logi_cal869

I’ve read post 1-35 and would just respectfully remind everyone that “the Government” owning something is BAD 99% of the time.

Let’s wait and see what the answer to WHY?..........IS.


36 posted on 01/26/2024 8:08:57 AM PST by Cen-Tejas
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The Messer Group GmbH is a supplier of industrial gases.

Any German company specializing in industrial gases - should immediately put up a flag.

In 1898, a student, Adolf Messer founded a company for acetylene lamps in Frankfurt Höchst.

https://forward.com/news/481412/nazi-collaborator-monuments-in-germany/

Bad Soden — The spa town on the outskirts of Frankfurt has a conference center named for Nazi Party member and war profiteer Adolf Messer (1878–1954). Messer’s welding, cutting and industrial gas company employed slave labor and manufactured weapons for the Third Reich. In 2019, student protests forced Frankfurt’s Goethe University to rename a campus lounge that honored Messer.

(Wikipedia):

The company merged in 1965, with Knapsack Griesheim AG to form the new Messer Griesheim GmbH. After this merger Farbwerke Hoechst held two-thirds of the company shares.

Knapsack Griesheim AG - with ties to IG Farben, a manufacturer of Zyklon B.

Knapsack…..(1906 the Knapsack-Griesheim AG, later part of the Hoechst AG (see Hoechst below)


IG Farben - was a German company that manufactured Zyklon B - the gas used to exterminate Jews and other concentration camp prisoners.

The United States of America vs. Carl Krauch, et al., also known as the IG Farben Trial, was the sixth of the twelve trials for war crimes the U.S. authorities held in their occupation zone in Germany (Nuremberg) after the end of World War II. IG Farben was the private German chemicals company allied with the Nazis that manufactured the Zyklon B gas used to commit genocide against millions of European Jews in the Holocaust.


IG Farben was founded in December 1925 as a merger of six companies: BASF (27.4 percent of equity capital); Bayer (27.4 percent); Hoechst including Cassella and Chemische Fabrik Kalle (27.4 percent)…

Liquidation of IG Farben:

Agfa, BASF and Bayer remained in business; Hoechst spun off its chemical business in 1999 as Celanese AG before merging with Rhône-Poulenc to form Aventis, which later merged with Sanofi-Synthélabo to form Sanofi. Two years earlier, another part of Hoechst was sold in 1997 to the chemical spin-off of Sandoz, the Muttenz (Switzerland) based Clariant. The successor companies remain some of the world's largest chemical and pharmaceutical companies.


Messer -> Knapsack-Griesheim AG -> Hoechst AG -> IG Farben -> Zyklon B

So it looks like the Messer Group has ties to Nazi Germany and to Zyklon B. The reason that this "deal" has not been publicized is to keep people from looking past the headlines.

When looking into the history of these German companies, it seems to be an intentional tangled muddled mass of information.

37 posted on 01/26/2024 8:09:53 AM PST by yelostar (Spook codes 33 and 13. See them often in headlines and news stories. )
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Considering how inept the federal government is, the helium might be better managed by a private company.


41 posted on 01/26/2024 8:15:38 AM PST by Sirius Lee (Next week on The Bickersons... )
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this is what a dictator does folks. Any of you still sitting on the fence with regards to Trump, had better wake up before it is too late.

This is how they upset the apple cart to sow confusion. Biden needs to be tried for treason, period.

44 posted on 01/26/2024 8:35:06 AM PST by Robert DeLong
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