Posted on 01/26/2024 5:31:12 AM PST by V_TWIN
Florida lawmakers advanced a bill on Wednesday that would prohibit social media platforms from allowing young teens to have an account while requiring everyone else to verify their age.
The measure prohibits anyone under 16 from creating a new social media account and requires platforms to delete existing accounts held by minors who are younger than 16. It also would require social media companies to delete any personal information from the accounts and for the platforms to use a “nongovernmental, independent, third-party not affiliated with the social media platform” to verify users’ age.
The bill passed the Florida house with a bipartisan 106-13 vote and now heads to the Republican-controlled senate.
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Again with the ad hominems, guess you feel your argument is quite weak seeing your need to denigrate others in this conversation.
One can disagree in good faith on the use of laws, especially the need for perhaps a different set of laws for minors and not be some inherent evil or ignoramus.
No idea if you have children but to act is if a parent and only the parent should be able to create a perfect world and has no need of help from reasonable legal protections(and yes I agree limited laws) seems a little naive to me.
By your reasoning we would not need laws around rape or murder or anything, just a few words that say don’t be bad. Who would determine what bad is?
Let’s take bullying, what exactly constitutes bullying, don’t you value free speech? I mean wouldn’t telling a minor they should go ahead and get sex change be protected free speech, given our current culture many would not call that position, as insane as it is, bullying.
For that matter why even have a constitution, I mean everyone knows we shouldn’t oppress each other right?
Social media presents a unique challenge to society’s youth, one not well managed in the current laws, updating them is not unwarranted, maybe not add new ones, but at least clarify old ones?
Our founding fathers literally saw the need to do just that with the amendment process. So yes sometimes we need updated or new laws, the trick it not to pile them on and avoid writing bad ones.
Already addressed, and kids use to sneak a friend’s father’s old playboy magazine also, yet pornography is illegal for minors.
It it your position pornography should not be since it is so easy to get anyway?
I get it, you are a pot smoking libertarian.
Unfortunately there is a worst case fourth option I am trying to prevent. The FR could just close up shop and not deal with any of the coming mess at all.
“15 year old kids will just VPN their way around this.”
And then this will be their excuse to outlaw VPNs next.
I have to say I feel sorry for you. Continue in your ignorance. I have spent enough time and energy educating you. The gaslighting and duplicity you can fit in a comment box is staggering. Do you think you are fooling anyone?
There are laws on the books that can be used. I have provided information on them. Just like the laws against rape & theft. Laws exist to deter and to punish. You choose to ignore the legal means of punishing those who make porn available on the internet to minors and instead postulate that my refusal to accept your concept of identifying children & refusing them the internet means I don’t believe in laws.
Do you see how ridiculous you are making yourself?
No more responses to blithering.
How about this angle... Skwor... How about you give me your real name, address, and ID number to put in my 3rd party database so that I can steal your identity and claim it was “conveniently” hacked?
Why do YOU use an anonymous user name here? Why not your real name and physical address since you support the removal of internet anonymity?
Under 21 and you can’t buy alcohol, tobacco, vapes, Bic lighters, matches, charcoal fluid, etc in the entire U.S.
You have to use a valid ID to get an account in many countries.
Verified IDs or credit card info. Easy to confirm.
Right. Like I am giving up that info to use the internet. Dream on.
I guess you are unfamiliar with older kids getting booze for younger kids or loaning them ID. People log others on to the internet and walk away in many circumstances already.
All this support for control and loss of privacy under the inaccurate pretext that “its for the children”. Sound familiar?
Only if you have no friends, can’t pay someone to buy it for you etc. What a joke.
Behind the iron curtain?
You are also blowing smoke about kids not being able to buy lighters under 21. It might be good to google before posting. There is no such law. Different states have restriction but most don’t. The individual stores have varying policies to prevent the store from getting sued.
For example In Texas you can buy a lighter at any age, in CA you have to be 18.
What kind of weight can we put on your posts when it is so easy to prove they are fact free?
And if caught you lose your license. Arguing that some will ignore the law doesn’t make the lww useless.
And I didn’t say “internet “. I’m referring to the topic of social media platforms like Tik Tok or Pornhub.
Murder is illegal but people do it anyway. So by your logic laws against murder shouldn’t have been enacted.
Absurd? Yes. That’s the point.
There is in TN. 21 to purchase lighters. Vaping too. I get carded buying charcoal fluid.
I got carded in TX buying a lighter.
Google is a joke.
I don’t care what is easy to confirm.
No Google is not a joke. What is a joke is someone stating as fact that no one under 21 can buy a lighter across the US because they get carded in TN.
There is no age restriction on the sale of lighters or matches in the US, however many stores will not sell to minors.
There is no federal law prohibiting the sale of lighters or lighter fluid to minors in the US. However, some stores may have their own policies and may choose not to sell these items to minors. In Pennsylvania, it is illegal to sell or furnish butane to minors. It is important to note that solvents or fumes that can be inhaled for the purpose of getting high are illegal to sell substances to anyone below 18 regardless of their gender and nationality. Therefore, you should be 18 to buy lighter fluid.
Tennesse law
State
21 years old is the minimum-age law (both a federal law and a state law) in effect and retailers must follow that law.
Tennessee’s state law sets 21 years old as the minimum-age for tobacco, smoking hemp, vapor products or smokeless nicotine products. Lighters are not regulated.
Age to Ask for ID: Retailers must demand proof of age from a prospective purchaser or recipient if an ordinary person would conclude, based on appearance, that the purchaser or recipient may be under 30.
https://www.wecard.org/state-summary/TN
It’s wrong. I cannot buy a lighter without ID in TN. Had to buy some last week. Might be 18. Could be a county law.
CA doesn’t have a limit, I was wrong there. Thought I had to show 21 there once. Must have been something else.
They ignore the under 30 thing and card everyone. Probably just to be safe.
Weird laws here. You only have to be 18 to sell beer and cigs but 21 to sell booze and wine.
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