Posted on 01/23/2024 6:09:54 AM PST by ChicagoConservative27
A proposal to let foreign citizens serve in the German army is under consideration by Berlin. If approved, it will allow the Bundeswehr to build strength on the back of a recent announcement that conscription could return as the prospect of a grand “European army” looms on the horizon.
Deutsche Welle (DW) reports German Defense Minister Boris Pistorius initially proposed the idea of welcoming non-Germans to enlist in order to ease a drastic shortage of personnel.
In addition to Pistorius from the Social Democrats, the report details the idea has also received support from lawmakers belonging to one of its two coalition partners, the FDP, plus the opposition Christian Democratic Union (CDU).
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From 2021. Check out the bit about mail-in voting.
foreign citizens?
Good job, you Elitist scum — hating on your country’s young males while convincing the young females to abort. The West would be far better off without your psychotic grip.
Didn’t foreigners from conquered lands fight in the Wermacht in WW2? I.E Ukrainians, Vichy French, etc
Yep. The reverse of ancient Rome and it’s armies; started taking in German tribesmen and well, they eventually turned on them...more than once. The decline of civilizations in real time.
We are not too far behind them.
Yes, mostly those sympathetic with the anti-communist bent of the Nazis. They were also kept, for the most part, in separate divisions commanded at the top by the Germans.
The first paragraph alone conjures up two military failures from antiquity:
1. The Romans allowing German tribesmen into their army
2. Persia’s grand multinational army being scattered repeatedly by Alexander’s smaller force
RIP America as well. Getting the invaders into the military is all part of the plan. Inch by inch.
Uh, No.
See Fall of the Roman Empire.
But the darker aspect--those mercenaries probably won't be used for defense from without.
I keep thinking back to the Canadian trucker's strike in Ottawa. The local law enforcement seemed to be reluctant to do the type of crackdown Trudeau and Freeland wanted, so suddenly a contingent of law enforcement showed up that didn't appear to be local.(remember the old lady getting trampled by the horse?).
Or Tienanmen Square, where military units were brought from other regions to crack down.
Not a good idea, imho.
Draft ended about 14 years ago, and at present...the Bundeswehr on a volunteer agenda...is at 181,000 (2023 numbers).
The number they want within three years? 203,000. Part of that increase is for a Lithuania combat unit.
The salary/bonus plan....hasn’t worked, so this is the next agenda item to be attempted. If you don’t speak German...you won’t be accepted. So I have strong doubts that they will recruit more than 2k non-Germans.
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We've had non-U.S. citizens in our military for decades. We have deployment freeze codes on each of them by GEOgraphical Location (GEOLOC) so that we don't deploy them back to their home country and run the risk of divided loyalties or that their families would be threatened by our enemies in order to influence the servicemember.
On more than one occasion our unit had to shortfall a tasking order by one or two Air Force Specialty Codes (AFSCs - like an Army MOS) because while we had enough staff to meet the tasking order, we had one or two non-citizens from the GEOLOC involved in the deployment.
It wasn't a big deal since units shortfall tasking orders by one or two staff all the time for a multitude of reasons such as medical conditions, base-level training, individual being an augmentee to another base unit, member approaching a deadline in the Career Development Courses (CDCs) where if they failed, they'd be discharged from the military on a date that would have fallen in the deployment window, member separation or retirement paperwork just dropped, and once in a while we'd have someone in the process of non-judicial punishment that hadn't been finalized.
Almost all the non-citizens I served with became citizens. (Those that hadn't were in the process at the time I separated). They were very gung-ho and great to work with.
Creating an Army of Mercenaries who will be far more willing to clamp down on the native population (if they get too uppity).
Yup, we (or, rather anti-Americans such as Democrats) are considering the same thing here. Hmmm, seems to me that another large and influential culture tried that once. Oh yeah, it was Rome.
I met a man in a pub in Venlo, Netherlands. Upon realizing I was an American, he told me his story: He was 10-14 yrs. old during WWII. The Germans put him and others to work repairing bomb danage to the runways at the local airfield. In exchange for that he got a small bowl of soup each day. His town was later liberated by Americans. To show his appreciation to America, he went to Cleveland (he had relatives there), worked in restaurants for a year, learned to speak English, then joined the Army.
He opened up his wallet and showed me his discharge papers. He was very proud of his service and said he likes to thank every American he meets for what the US did for him.
He teared up as he told me his story.
Images from World War One:
muslims.
Let me refine this.
Vichy France has its own troupes which fought alongside Germans, but technically were not part of Wehrmacht.
So were the Hungarians, Romanians, Slovaks, etc. German satellites.
There were volunteer legions like the Vlasov army consistent of Russian POWs. Ukrainian nationalist troupes, Spain volunteer legion. Even some Belgian legion.
Those were all at least dressed identifiable as such.
Germany annexed huge parts of Europe (Western Poland e.g) directly and people living in these areas were just drafted.
People living in occupied areas having German ancestry could or had to declared themselves Volksdeutche and were drafted too.
And finally, Germany accepted volunteers of all nations.
Basically anybody agreeing with ideology and having acceptable racial profile could join directly. Those hardline volunteers usually did not bother with Wehrmacht and rather joined SS!
E.g. the Spanish legion was recalled, but several hardliners stayed and joined SS.
In total there was huge army of non Germans fighting alongside. Some were forced, and not too motivated, but the real volunteers were apparently one of the best fighters of all!
Some time in the 1870’s, my great grandfather, a Norwegian merchant seaman joined the US Navy in Naples Italy.
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