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To: funwithfood
And if one goes back in time you once stated that Russia will have ALL of the black sea coastline and there was nothing anyone can do about it....They dont want it anymore? or were you just simply wrong?

Oh, unless Ukraine surrenders, I have no doubt that Russians will take Odessa and leave Ukraine a landlocked country as well as everything east of Dnieper river.

That objective to start with, though.

The Russians would have been perfectly happy to see the Minsk Accords implemented. But, we and NATO had Ukraine sign the Minsk Accords with no intent of allowing Ukraine to abide by it.

Russia would have settled for Donetsk and Lugansk being annexed in peace talks in Turkey of last year. A deal was almost reached before Boris Johnson and Biden regime killed it.

The Biden regime and NATO wanted this proxy war with Russia. It's been total disaster. Both keep doubling down and losing. And, that will continue to be the case until Ukraine ultimately surrenders. The only question is how much more territory will Russia be forced to take before it does.

49 posted on 01/17/2024 12:41:11 PM PST by Kazan
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To: Kazan

“Oh, unless Ukraine surrenders....”

You just repeated what you said before instead of answering my question. Back then you did not say it with that “surrender” caveat. You have changed your tune since then. Why? Where you wrong or is Russia simply unable to take the whole coastline as you said they would?

“The Russians would have been perfectly happy to see the Minsk Accords implemented.”

The Russians and the separatists trashed the Minsk accords one and two.

“Russia would have settled for Donetsk and Luhansk being annexed”

Your point? Again, you didnt address my point: You said Russia has all they want, (even though they still do not control all the land they claim, nor the land you claim they would get “not matter what anyone tries to do”). If they have all they want why are they still trying and failing miserably to take more land?

“The only question is how much more territory will Russia be forced to take before it does”

Then why not take the whole Black sea coastline as you said they would to force Ukraine to surrender? Ukraine is down to old men and woman. What are they waiting for? Should be EZPZ.


51 posted on 01/17/2024 6:22:35 PM PST by funwithfood
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