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Ukraine downs two Russian military command and reconnaissance planes in huge blow for Putin
Daily Mail ^ | 1/15/2024 | PERKIN AMALARAJ and WILL STEWART

Posted on 01/15/2024 5:16:12 AM PST by marcusmaximus

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21 posted on 01/15/2024 6:20:53 AM PST by marcusmaximus
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22 posted on 01/15/2024 6:25:09 AM PST by marcusmaximus
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To: marcusmaximus; Allegra; bimboeruption; Rocco DiPippo; tennmountainman
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(((PING!)))

23 posted on 01/15/2024 6:28:47 AM PST by aMorePerfectUnion
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If the crash site is on land, there should be satellite imagery in a day or two.

Oleg Volodymyrovych Bdzhola, deputy commander of long-range aviation of the #ruZZian Air Force, was on board the plane.

So, Oleg was hoping to earn his medal "For Distinction in Combat".

Instead, his wife will get his "Medal for Service in the Submarine Force".


24 posted on 01/15/2024 6:30:20 AM PST by FtrPilot
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His widow will also receive 2 kilos of potatoes as compensation for his sacrifice.


25 posted on 01/15/2024 6:32:53 AM PST by marcusmaximus
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To: FtrPilot

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26 posted on 01/15/2024 6:36:28 AM PST by dennisw (Be positive. Every day is a new day.)
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To: marcusmaximus

The Russia-Ukraine war is proving to be very illuminating for how a war between two technological powers is fought.

Most conflicts since WWII have been lower tech, or high tech vs. low tech, so haven’t illustrated how modern military tech works against each other. Even the Iraq wars were modern vs. Soviet era, which of course showed what would have happened had a conventional World War III happened in Europe.

Historically, this war will likely be labeled “The First Drone War”, both in the air an on the water. So innovation in the future will also include land drone warfare and submarine drone warfare.


27 posted on 01/15/2024 6:43:49 AM PST by yefragetuwrabrumuy ("All he had was a handgun. Why did you think that was a threat?" --Rittenhouse Prosecutor)
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To: funwithfood

It is isnt it when one if fighting for one’s country, check out average age of Muscovite army and average death age
Not spring chickens either


28 posted on 01/15/2024 6:45:12 AM PST by blitz128
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Military History channel reports it’s possible both aircraft were show down by friendly fire.

If true it’s a mistake of epic proportions. Maybe even war changing. A 2021 estimate said Russia had about 20 such planes total and assuming several are always down for maintenance and a few perhaps may have already been lost in the war we could be talking about maybe 1/4 of their total available!!!


29 posted on 01/15/2024 6:46:05 AM PST by Phoenix8
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To: marcusmaximus

Ally of shrapnel damage, is patriot that large


30 posted on 01/15/2024 6:46:06 AM PST by blitz128
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Now that the Russian AWACS and the command plane are toast, Ukraine appears to be preparing to launch a big Storm Shadow attack on Kerch and other targets in Crimea. U.S. ISR flights over the Black Sea right now are strong indicator that the Ukrainian attack could be tonight or tomorrow.


31 posted on 01/15/2024 6:56:34 AM PST by marcusmaximus
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The current Russian cope about the shootdown of the RFAF A-50 and damage to the Il-22 ranges from "friendly fire" to a "22 member British SAS team with MANPADS."

Personally, I am having a hard time wrapping my head around what weapon was used if it was not friendly fire, which I do not believe it was.

The distance from Ukrainian controlled territory to the location where the planes were believed to be is just at or outside of the range of a Patriot MIM-104D/E PAC-2 which has a published range of 160 km (86 nmi; 99 mi).

Despite this, Patriot seems to be the most popular working theory I have observed from others.

https://twitter.com/UKikaski/status/1746868000345518413

The Patriot had to be forward deployed...placing it at risk of attack by ZALA Lancet drone, rockets, or artillery.

Chances are the actual max ranges of the Patriot missiles are classified and much greater than the numbers in wiki.

The Patriot launch was outside Rmax-2. If the A-50 observed the Patriot launch, the pilot could have evaded the missile by turning to a heading of 110.

We will never know the full story.

32 posted on 01/15/2024 6:57:53 AM PST by FtrPilot
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“ Military History channel reports it’s possible both aircraft were show down by friendly fire.”
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Yes, here’s a hot link:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RJcAyFk99_w

Was it a friendly fire incident? Who knows…certainly not me.


33 posted on 01/15/2024 7:03:22 AM PST by House Atreides (I’m now ULTRA-MAGA. -PRO-MAX)
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Just searched it and the Patriot missile range is 100 KM, or 60 miles. Clearly FAR out of range. I’m betting “friendly” fire. IMG-9199
34 posted on 01/15/2024 7:12:15 AM PST by Phoenix8
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Not friendly fire. Patriot. The A-50 was flying right along the coast when it was shot down. The pilots bodies were found on the ground in the snow near Berdanysk.


35 posted on 01/15/2024 7:19:23 AM PST by marcusmaximus
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Forte11 Global Hawk right now. No fear of being shot down by Russia.


36 posted on 01/15/2024 7:21:57 AM PST by marcusmaximus
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HARD TO RECOVER ANYTHING OVER WATER


37 posted on 01/15/2024 7:24:31 AM PST by ridesthemiles
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To: BabaOreally

It could also be another Ukrainian trap to lure a replacement A-50 to the Patriot kill zone.


39 posted on 01/15/2024 7:28:58 AM PST by marcusmaximus
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BREAKING‼️ A Russian SU-34 had to take evasive measures to avoid a missile according to the radio intercept a few moments ago

The plane was over the sea of Azov

The hunting season is in full swing, isn’t it?

https://twitter.com/PStyle0ne1/status/1746907122485399578


40 posted on 01/15/2024 7:34:14 AM PST by marcusmaximus
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