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To: BigJimSportCamper

Buffalo = shitsville. The only way they are getting a new sports ball stadium for the local numbskulls, is NY state kicking in 800 million or so. Buffalo used to have industry that paid their way.

Toronto is 100 miles away and has property prices that are 5x of Buffalos


27 posted on 01/15/2024 5:33:18 AM PST by dennisw (Be positive. Every day is a new day.)
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To: dennisw

I grew up in Orchard Park, home of the Buffalo Bills, about three miles from the stadium.
I could not believe they were going to build another stadium right across the street from the existing one without a ROOF.

First of all they should have moved the stadium either up to the city or north of the city. The lake effect snow belt literally starts just a few miles north of Orchard Park in West Seneca.
There are many times when the city of Buffalo would get a dusting or a small amount of snow and Orchard Park and south down the PA border would get multiple feet of snow.

Lake effect snow is very impressive. It is not unusual to go to bed with bare ground and wake up with 2’ overnight.

The difference between Toronto and Buffalo are so huge you can not even compare the two cities. Buffalo, Cleveland, Pittsburgh, Detroit and so many rust belt cities were crushed in the 1970s by imports and unions. 25M people worked at Bethlehem Steel in Lackawanna, NY.

Yet, right across the border in Hamilton, ONT(between Niagara Falls and Toronto)they still make steel. At least they did a few years ago. They still have many other manufacturing operations. NAFTA and the UNIONS absolutely crushed manufacturing in the USA.


44 posted on 01/15/2024 6:03:10 AM PST by woodbutcher1963
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To: dennisw

“Toronto is 100 miles away and has property prices that are 5x of Buffalos”

Who cares? I’d rather live in Buffalo than anywhere in Canada.


51 posted on 01/15/2024 6:17:50 AM PST by rxh4n1
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