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Trump Jr. suggests ‘only way’ to end Ukraine conflict
The Press United ^ | January 14, 2024

Posted on 01/14/2024 5:17:02 PM PST by Kazan

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To: Kazan

“The fighting between Russia and Ukraine has to end in talks”

Joe Boden should personally request an armistice.

Congress should not vote out money to Ukraine until Job Biden has requested an armistice and the time Russia was given to accept Joe’s request has expired and Ukraine did accept to go along with Joe’s request if Russia did.


41 posted on 01/14/2024 7:37:48 PM PST by Brian Griffin
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To: yldstrk

“Would you, as a US citizen, surrender ever to the Chinese?”

Americans surrender to Communism every April 15th.


42 posted on 01/14/2024 7:39:57 PM PST by Brian Griffin
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To: Lurker

“Using the word “investment” when discussing any government spending is a rude joke.”

>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>

Well 99% of the time I would agree with you on that.


43 posted on 01/14/2024 7:42:05 PM PST by USA-FRANCE
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To: Brian Griffin

Americans surrender to Communism every April 15th.
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Death and taxes as they say.


44 posted on 01/14/2024 7:42:59 PM PST by yldstrk
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To: yldstrk

Ethnic Russians have been living in much of the disputed land for two centuries, ever since much of it was taken from Turkey, which would like its old territory back.


45 posted on 01/14/2024 7:44:47 PM PST by Brian Griffin
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To: Brian Griffin

Ethnic Russians have been living in much of the disputed land for two centuries, ever since much of it was taken from Turkey, which would like its old territory back.
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Yep true, my grandmother was one of the Russians who lived in Ukraine. Doesn’t change what I said.


46 posted on 01/14/2024 7:46:32 PM PST by yldstrk
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To: Kazan

“Ukrainians ‘were never winning’”

They were doing quite well until the summer offensive against well-prepared Russian defenses.

Ukraine lost lots of troops it could have used in the eastern section of the front where Russia has recently made broad but not deep advances.


47 posted on 01/14/2024 7:53:27 PM PST by Brian Griffin
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To: yldstrk

“Have you forgotten that Stalin starved millions of Ukrainians in his collectivization campaign?”

Ukrainians remember that firmly.

Many Ukrainians have long wished for independence from Russia, even before the time of Stalin.

If Ukraine got a handle on corruption, it could become quite prosperous.


48 posted on 01/14/2024 8:00:22 PM PST by Brian Griffin
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To: Lurker

Russia has already prepared for a long war in case you haven’t noticed. Their army is bigger, their economy is stronger, and their country is more united than it was two years ago.

Contrast with Ukraine whose military is in tatters 1M+ military aged males dodging the draft and the average age of their soldiers well over 40. Its so bad, they’re now recruiting women to fill the ranks of their depleted units.

People there are already questioning what their corrupt government is doing, and with no end to war and no democratic elections on the horizon, a new Maidan is likely being planned.

If the Ukies themselves don’t throw the fascists out, Russia will reclaim the parts of Ukraine which have historically been theirs, offer the neighboring countries an opportunity to take back lands that were historically theirs, and leave land locked, demilitarized rump Ukraine as a ‘homeland’ for the Banderite scum that survive.


49 posted on 01/14/2024 8:24:46 PM PST by mac_truck (aide toi et dieu t'aidera)
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To: ansel12
Actually the analogy is between the people in eastern Ukraine and the colonists that were being oppressed by the British.

Those in Crimea and Donbass were under NO obligation to be persecuted or murdered by a government of Ukrainian nationalists and neo-Nazis that hated them.

Nor was Russia under any obligation to let us foment an illegal coup on its borders and build up a military force that was threat to their national security. We sure as hell wouldn't tolerate that in Mexico.

All you have is a false narrative that only ignorant believe.

50 posted on 01/14/2024 8:41:04 PM PST by Kazan
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To: Lurker
The globalists behind this war ARE a far bigger threat to the citizens of this nation and the world than Russia.

Russia is under attack because it has resisted the LGBT and Green agenda and the "liberal world order".

51 posted on 01/14/2024 8:43:16 PM PST by Kazan
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To: Kazan

Your raving posts get nuttier as your obsession completely overtakes you.


52 posted on 01/14/2024 8:46:32 PM PST by ansel12 ((NATO warrior under Reagan, and RA under Nixon, bemoaning the pro-Russians from Vietnam to Ukraine.))
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To: canuck_conservative
Again: If Russia or China fomented an illegal coup in Mexico, installed a puppet government, trained and funded a 600,000 Mexican army, armed Mexico with lethal weapons and was running biolabs with deadly pathogens in them, WE'D INVADE.

What don't you understand about that, you stupid Canadian?

If Canada wants to declare war on Russia or send its tax dollars, missiles and ammo, then feel free to. BUT TRUMP AND THE MAGA movement are done doing so if Trump gets back into office. Stop asking us to do the dirty work you want done.

Russia, BTW, is far, far better and freer country than Canada.

53 posted on 01/14/2024 8:48:57 PM PST by Kazan
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To: Timber Rattler
When Trump wins the nomination, you're either going to get on the Trump train or get on the tracks.

He'll have the nomination within a matter of months. Tick tock, tock....

It would be outrageous if you or anyone else is allowed to stick around and undermine Trump at this website.

54 posted on 01/14/2024 8:50:40 PM PST by Kazan
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To: Brian Griffin

If Ukraine got a handle on corruption, it could become quite prosperous.
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Yes.


55 posted on 01/14/2024 8:51:59 PM PST by yldstrk
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To: Brian Griffin
Many Ukrainians have long wished for independence from Russia

Ethnic Russians are the largest ethnic group eastern Ukraine and those there overwhelming reject the illegal coup we fomented in 2014. Ukrainian nationalists, including neo-Nazis, persecuted ethnic Russians, Russian speakers and those that opposed the coup.

They deserve their independence from Ukraine. And, they received it and are now part of the Russian Federation.

56 posted on 01/14/2024 8:54:42 PM PST by Kazan
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To: canuck_conservative

If it wouldn’t be for the US………..

If it would not be for the US most Ukrainians still would have a roof over their heads and sleep in their own beds. Overall life and living conditions weren’t that bad in Ukraine, aside from corruption which reeked to high heaven, many times worse than here in the US and along with it, US governmental agencies involvement, in order to gain a foothold, stirring the pot long before the last elections, which were a sham to begin with just like the last elections here in the US.

Probably the eastern portion of the Ukraine which has a large portion of ethnic Russians and was constantly assaulted by radical groups; would have been annexed by Russia and things eventually would have settled down. The same goes for Europe if they had not jumped on the US bandwagon. The US purposely damaged the gas supply lines making sure that Europe in general and Germany in particular remains dependent on the US like a colony, just in case they may come to their senses and change their mind.

Those days when Russia had any ideas of expansion are long gone and over with and things of the past. All they want is a quiet neighborhood without NATO or CIA manipulation and intervention. Just like the US likes to keep their backyard free of any intruders. But the warmongers within the US regime know that a peaceful coexistence is bad for the production of war materials, especially the military industrial complex as well as the globalists, cranking out wartime supplies like there is no tomorrow and if they keep it up there may not be one. So, they keep stirring the pot until it will boil over and it isn’t too far from doing just that.


57 posted on 01/14/2024 9:11:40 PM PST by Saintgermain
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To: Kazan

So Napoleonesque

Of liberals

To destroy Ukraine

Equalite

Liberte

Fraternite

Diversite

Gog usa

Magog nato

Rev 13


58 posted on 01/14/2024 10:15:06 PM PST by Firehath (Quackery - An irrelevant simplification / undetected Complex problem - attacking symptoms)
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To: USA-FRANCE

“Lastly : WWII made America a super power, economically speaking.”

Not quite. We were already an economic superpower. We were recovering well from the depression by then. I’d say the war was a hindrance.


59 posted on 01/14/2024 10:31:13 PM PST by rxh4n1
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To: canuck_conservative

“or Russia could stop attacking & invading”

Who’s going to make them? Be realistic, there is little chance that Ukraine can defeat Russia militarily, and there is little chance Russia will just up and quit.


60 posted on 01/14/2024 10:36:41 PM PST by rxh4n1
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